On Aug 28, 2021, at 04:37, Nick KM6RDV via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote: Wow, this is amazing! Thank you very much for this info.
Initially I thought I wanted an *ISP* who routes me the subnet but now that I think about it, a solution like Vultr seems to be the better choice because it's ISP independent.
It seems there is not even a charge to announce a net over BGP.
-> Does anyone who uses Vultr already want to provide me with a referral? (PM)
-> Out of curiosity, are there also people out there who managed to get their 44 routed via their ISP?
Best, Nick
I have had a /23 allocation to a local (to me) data center for over eight years. I have a server there, that I own, on a rented shelf in a shared cabinet. It was a major PIA for them to set it up, requiring negotiation with all of their upstream providers. Took them weeks to get it going, but ultimately successful, all for no extra charge.
I also manage a /20 allocation to Vultr for IRLP.net (used to deliver public IPs to individual repeaters, buried behind NAT). With Vultr.com, the process is entirely automated, fill out a form, apply for a private ASN, Vultr exchanges email with Chris. Then fully working within a few hours.
What is nice about Vultr is the flexibility to move things around. Once your allocation is established with them, you can bring up a /24 (or larger) subnet from any of their 17 data centers around the world, with no notification to anyone. You must configure your host to run a BGP routing daemon. Documentation on how to set that up is on their site. Not difficult. If you check, you will find hundreds of 44.0 subnets routed by Vultr (AS20473). They have been providing that service for many years.
Since most of IRLP is in North America and Australia, we are currently providing services from Chicago and Sydney. $6/mo each. We expect to add Seattle soon, and Dallas after that.
I am not aware of any residential retail ISP that offers BGP routing services. Technically they could, but is simply something they are not inclined to do.
— Dave K9DC
Hi Chris,
On 2021-08-26 00:33, Chris Smith wrote:
Hi Nick,
I am aware there will be a slim chance for this to happen but having a 44net subnet directly routed would be super amazing. I am aware that "normal" providers likely won't do this except for business customers (at many $$$/months) and likely the subnet needs to be large (>=/24?)
We do allow members to announce their own prefix via BGP, some have their own ASN and do it themselves, others have an existing provider do it for them. A popular choice is Vultr who will rent you a cheap VM and you can run Bird/FRR/Quagga/etc on it and announce your prefix to them via a private ASN, they will then announce it to the DFZ under their own ASN. You can then either use the address space on the VM, or tunnel back to your shack for use there.
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