24 Apr
2022
24 Apr
'22
6:24 a.m.
I don't think the current maintainer is doing it for free. And I think that should
not matter.
We have a mission to create a network for amateur radio purposes. When we think that we
cannot host services because of stupid liability issues or because it would cost us time,
we
better stop doing it and pass the buck to the Googles, Microsofts and Facebooks of the
world.
I think it is ridiculous that we would even CONSIDER these kinds of things in an amateur
radio
network.
And w.r.t. me doing things for the network, you probably are not aware of how much effort
I
spend on it all for free.
Rob
On 4/24/22 12:02, Mark Stevenson via 44net wrote:
Rob... I'm sure you are aware that there are very
clear distinctions between offering network, email, web, voip, ntp and the many other
services that make up what we consider to be the internet today?
All these parts are put together with varying levels of skill, resources, hardware and
service-specific expertise. 44net (AMPR, ARDC etc) offer network services, they are an
NSP, the people that would for the organisation and provide the service, although may well
be inclined and skilled in such a way to rebuild a mail server, they are not mail-service
providers. The mailing list is ancillary to their core-service, as such they felt the best
thing to do now is perhaps find a provider, that has a core-competency in mailing list
management.
It is for the users of 44net to make-up the services that reside on the 44net service and
if the person that volunteered their time, resources and effort into maintaining a now
defunct mail-server now decides he no longer wishes to do so, it makes perfect sense that
what is considered an incredibly well-used resource is hosted elsewhere, where any of the
previous oversights, such as backups, will be maintained under an SLA with a provider who
offer those services.
I've worked with the amateur radio community long enough to know that the callsign
comes with a sense of 'entitlement' that empowers its holders to almost
'demand' the free services they are using not only continue to be free
indefinately (doable) but also in such a way that appeases them (not so much)... If you
feel so strongly that in the spirit of ham radio that someone volunteer their time,
resources and effort in to hosting a mailman service.... you do it!
I'm an IT professional, I could host the service quite easily at my QTH or on one of
the VPS I have, but I have to ensure that user data is protected and secure, isn't
succumbed to cyber-offenses and that the service has a reasonable level of availability
and it's usage conforms to the many regulartory domains that exist across the world...
Doing to for free, doesn't negate liability by the way ;) So, I passed on the
opportunity to raise my hand... and anyone else considering it needs to read the above
first.
Thats my 2-pence... ;)