24 Apr
2022
24 Apr
'22
3:34 p.m.
+1
On 2022-04-24 05:39, Rob PE1CHL via 44net wrote:
On 4/24/22 11:26, dave.g4ugm--- via 44net wrote:
Is that a concern with the existing mailing list?
My understanding is that a server crashed, there were no good backups, and it had to be
recovered.
And now we suddenly find ourselves in a discussion about "hosting it somewhere
else", "maling list providers find themselves in trouble", etc.
I agree with Toussaint that providing network services is our core business and we should
not outsource it.
From earlier messages I understand that "groups.io" is both an external service
that can handle all your needs, and a provider of opensource software that you can host
yourself. The latter could be an option to use.
But I think when we have to declare that we cannot host our own solution and that others
do it so much better, the time has come to dismantle 44Net.
When we cannot even host a mailinglist, no need to boast anymore about how we provide
"emergency communications" as HAMs, and other unique services.
Rob
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Moreover, we are HAM radio operators managing a dedicated IP network.
Why should we use external/commercial solutions for our internal
communications ? My opinion is that, when possible, we should, use "internal"
services, based on free software, and self-hosted on 44net servers.
The issue here is that if we continue to use a locally hosted solution, but route
to our "normal" e-mail address we will probably find ourselves black listed,
fighting spam filters and trying to manage SPF DKIM and DMARC frameworks.
Any one who follows the groups.io managers lists will be aware of the many problems they
face, but they have a central team that helps sort out the problems.
The real issue is that many mail providers want to advertise low spam levels, but most
users never as the million dollar question, "how much legitimate e-mail do you drop
without it going to my spam box".
As such e-mail is simply discarded the users know nothing about it.
Of course we could also set up our own mail system as well that would work on the 44 net
but are we really about duplicating existing infrastructure?