+1 F1SCA
-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+f1sca=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Leon D. Zetekoff Envoyé : mercredi 9 mars 2016 01:08 À : 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] Is there raceroutre machine on 44 net available for public ?
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On 3/8/2016 7:01 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
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On 3/8/2016 11:09 AM, Don Fanning wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:50 AM, marius@yo2loj.ro wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Just that there will be alot of opposition from people worrying about 1 ping an hour should some multicast group announcement and subscription messages appear on the network...
Ultimately that is the biggest problem. We can't even get network operators to allow ICMP packets without them scrutinizing every packet that comes across the wire as a threat. Among other topics...
+1 on that. I am a network engineer and worked for carriers and it really ticks me off when pings are turned off. Pings are the lowest priority traffic on any network. not responding to pings makes it that much more difficult to debug when things go wrong.
ALso, if folks are so worried where pings are coming from ACLs can be crafted IF necessary to keep unwanted traffic out.
Also, why are we reinventing the wheel? There are already protocols and tools to do all this. It should be automatic like BGP and OSPF are. ALso, Marius' clever RIP scripts for Mikrotik work really well (after we debugged and finetuned it)
There's no real reason to reinvent anything. We are still in the 1990s network wise and we need to jump the shark and get into this century. While I am not (and never was) in favor of netrom and all that stuff back in the day I was one of the rebels in South FLorida using Phils KA9Q NOS.
I know there are some good implementations of integrating all the legacy stuff and UROnode comes to mind. But do we have to still use this in 2016? can't we migrate everything to tcpip?
73 leon
Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE, MTCE
WA4ZLW
BackWoods Wireless
Blandon, PA 19510
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