That is basically what I have in mind. Though I would allow the regionals to determine the VPN protocols to reach the subnets (more than one, including possibly IPIP).
Then we should have plug and play configurations for subnets. For example, I can provision a MikroTik with a VPN to a datacenter and deliver it to subnet admin for $50-100, who places on their LAN with connectivity to an ISP. Going out from there to RF or a service is the responsibility of the local subnet.
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Bryan Fields Bryan@bryanfields.netwrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On 1/29/14 2:05 PM, Steve Wright wrote:
This mesh crap really needs to be binned, or at the very least not try
and
do anything important over it, such as route an entire /16. If you want
to
connect a /24 with it to make a neat local play toy then go for it, but using it as an enterprise routing tool is absurd at the very least, and
at
it's WORST, it's very likely to just completely stop anyone from trying
to
build anything new over it because it's connectivity and throughput
sucks.
This.
So this is how I'd see it work, I need to write up a proposal for it.
You have regional BGP routers that route subnets to the internet. These could then tunnel the subnets to end users via GRE. End users could route via an IGP over this tunnel to the regional speaker(s). Multiple tunnels would give redundancy.
The regional speakers would have a tunnel between them.
In the event of an outage the other BGP speakers would route subnets. Multiple links from end users to other BGP speakers (or non-speakers that are aggravation routers) would provide redundancy to the end users.
Of course nothing prevents having a direct BGP speaker with an RF link to end users, most data centers will not have roof rights however.
We could setup redistribution that would pull announcements from BGP if end nodes went down.
Each BGP speaker could announce the subnets it knows about and a /8 providing we have a mesh of the backbone bgp speakers.
Thoughts?
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