On 4/11/14, 12:04 PM, Bart Kus wrote:
Well, IPIP itself is not the problem. It avoids the costs of Internet BGP peering. What is a problem is the lack of dead-peer-detection between IPIP gateways. If intra-AMPR BGP peering was actually deployed as part of the general recommendations then we wouldn't need to anycast to achieve redundancy. But as it stands, the deployed technologies are very light, and anycasting our IPIP endpoint is the easiest way to achieve the desired redundancy. We do plan to make special BGP+IPSec arrangements with select AMPRnet peers to further improve our availability and security, but there's no need to do any of that work on the mailing list.
I'd say we should keep it on the mailing list. I'm very interested in what others are doing with BGP announced AMPRnet space!
I'd be interested in interconnecting if you need a gateway or something. I've got a good relationship with my upstream in Tampa. Granted the latency to WA is a bit much :)
FWIW I'll be in Belview for NANOG 61 in June.