I don't think talking to ARIN is going to help much as they seem to have no over site over 44net space. This is a direct grandfathered assignment from ICANN. I think charging a small fee per address block is perfectly reasonable to cover the administrative costs. Brian have you set up a non-profit paypal account. That would work really well. Just make sure you tell paypal that it is a 501C3, which will require you to send paperwork. That way they take less money.
Lin
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tim Pozar pozar@lns.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Brian Kantor wrote:
As has been discussed at length on this mailing list, there are things that have to be done before we can start delegating subnets.
What is going on is that we (our nonprofit) is attempting to get organized. That means getting the legal documents handled, setting up an advisory committee, work out an agreement with ARIN regarding our delegation policies, writing an acceptable use policy and subnet delegation contract, establishing procedures to evaluate delegation requests, and figure out some way to fund all of this.
To get an ASN we will need to negotiate with ARIN regarding their standard AS contract; it appears to require those applying for an ASN to relinquish a significant amount of autonomy, an amount that I believe is incompatable with the way we wish to continue to operate network 44.
BTW… I am here at NANOG and representatives are here from ARIN (John Curran, David Huberman, Mark Kosters, Carrie Marino, Leslie Nobile). I would be happy to chat with them if needed.
Note also that an ASN costs $500 plus an annual maintenance fee. The nonprofit is already about $1k in the hole, financed entirely by me. We have no source of funds; everything is being done by volunteers including a significant amount of pro-bono work by a
networking-policy-savvy
attorney who has kindly volunteered her time even though she is not a ham radio licensee (yet).
Where can I send monies?
We need to set up an rwhois server to advise of the delegations. This is an ARIN requirement and good network citizenship. It should be
integrated
with the web system.
I may have offered this before, but I would be happy to help set this up.
So we've not been idle; things are slowly moving forward.
We *will* be delegating subnets when the necessaries are in place.
Sorry it's
taking so long. Anyone want to help? - Brian
PS: perhaps I misunderstand Internet peering, but I don't see any need to get an ASN before delegating subnets. It might be convenient but I don't think it's a prerequisite. Perhaps someone knowledgeable could comment on this.
You don't need a new ASN. Anyone with an ASN can announce 44/8 space in part or full.
Tim
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