Pierre,
You should not read too much into that remark that bandwidth is not the first concern. I does not mean "we may as well have bad bandwidth and poor performance", but rather that we are not using that much bandwidth that we need to have the fastest connections and the fastest routers. At the moment our 44.137.0.0/16 gateway has a 1Gbit internet connection but it on average uses only about 30 Mbit/s with peaks of up to ~100 Mbit/s (in each direction). At this moment we are busy moving the servers to a different datacenter because the old one is going to close down, and there we will get 10 Gbit/s but the new datacenter offers us up to 100 Gbit/s. We have chosen not to go that way for now because our equipment has only up to 10 Gbit/s interfaces and going higher would mean more investment. I think that is not warranted at this time. Maybe if we would host a PoP in a worldwide backbone and would get connections from more countries. But at that time it can always be changed. This of course has no influence on latency, that is determined by physical location. We will be next to the AMS-IX.
Rob
On 8/3/21 12:48 AM, pete M via 44Net wrote:
I think that performance IS of prime concerne as much as reliability and redundency (wich is the 2 face of a same problem) Reliability with lack of performance will not fix our situation. adding hundreds of milisecond to a network conection , even if stable is in no way an improvement.
Pierre VE2PF
De : 44Net 44net-bounces+petem001=hotmail.com@mailman.ampr.org de la part de Rob PE1CHL via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Envoyé : 2 août 2021 17:10 À : 44net@mailman.ampr.org Cc : Rob PE1CHL Objet : Re: [44net] On Allocations, PoPs, and Proposals
Yes I think the design and deployment of the new backbone network which would replace IPIP tunnels and would offload the mandatory task of (complex) routing from the beginning user should be the first priority. It would lower the bar of entry and it would also solve the issues that the recent TAC proposal appears to target.
When budget is a problem, I think some of the existing gateways (certainly the one here in the Netherlands) would be able to offer the function or the hosting of that function for their region. We currently have 1Gbit internet connection, soon to be upgraded to 10Gbit, and a powerful system. Furthermore I think that bandwidth and performance is not really the first concern at the current load. Focus should be on reliability, possibly through having enough redundancy in the network.
Rob