22 Apr
2022
22 Apr
'22
9:45 a.m.
Well, there are some interesting comments. One being the cost of
service. If you look at the discourse link, right away it says it is
$100 per month, so it is not free. And if they were to decide this group
was a business then it is $300 per month. Still not free. Trying to find
pricing for groups.io shows starting at $20 per month for up to 500
members. I don't have any idea how many members there may be to this group.
A few have said they don't want anything that is "cloud based". Anything
you get from the internet is "cloud based" one way or another.
A few years ago when most of the groups were jumping from Yahoo some of
the groups talked about google. That is probably one of the worst places
to go to. I, along with several others in several groups said if they
went to google we would drop out. That hasn't changed for me. Trust
google for much of anything? Good luck with that.
A bit of my experience with groups.io. For those who like the digest, it
works, for those who like to get email, it works, for those who just
want to look at the messages in the group, it works. It works well for
archive and searching. A couple of other good features, it allows an
email receiver to limit attachment size (for those inconsiderate people
who think they have to send an image that is 10 megs and larger) so
instead it sends a link for the attachment. Also, if a user is no longer
interested in getting email about a subject, it allows that user to mute
the subject, which means they don't get any more emails about it. Since
I don't manage any groups, I'm sure there are several management tools
available to manage the group.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 06:53:23 PM
Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
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Hey Jeff,
Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
Discourse.
http://sykly.smtpclick.com/tracking/qaR9ZGLlBQp5ZmxjZQVjZQR4ZGp2ZPM5qzS4qaR…
Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
Rosy
Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
Executive Director
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
ampr.org
On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
> Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but
not the
> user database. I'm unable to authenticate
and, even if I try to
perform
> password recovery, I get the following message:
>
> "The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
>
> Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google
Groups
> or Groups.io instead of having someone host a
Mailman server?
>
> Jeff Hochberg
> W4JEW
> Atlanta, GA
> jeff(a)w4jew.com
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
>
> I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman.
> The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user ("
> The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ")
>
> Mike / AA8IA
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold > > > wrote:
>
> Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to
> login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a
> user when I try to reset my password.
>
> 73 de KM8V
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
>
> Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard
> to email reputation.
>
> SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC
> record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the
> list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended
> up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC all failed.
>
> 2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org SPF record
>
> and it appears themailman.ampr.org emails are being signed with
anARDC.NET
DKIM key rather than amailman.ampr.org DKIM key
>
> Mike / AA8IA
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net
> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server last week:
>
> The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an
> unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all
> the services associated with the mailing list continued
> to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our
> systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden
> reboot had corrupted several open files associated with
> the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net
> mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often
> goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for
> several days.
>
> Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only
> set to a few days and by the time the issue was
> investigated all the available backups were of the
> corrupted files.
>
> As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the
> older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest
> Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the
> mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman
> 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated
> the 44net list there.
>
> I am pleased to report that the archives from the old
> server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of
> data there thankfully.
>
> The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found
> here:
>
>
http://sykly.smtpclick.com/tracking/qaR9ZGLlBQp5ZmxjZQVjZQR4ZGp2ZPM5qzS4qaR…
The MX record has been updated to point to the new
server, so you should continue to send emails to
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
to post to the list.
I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for
hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash
in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it
has provided excellent service to the community. John is
going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the
44net mailing list on it’s new home.
Best 73,
Chris - G1FEF
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