Re: [44net] 44Net Digest, Vol 9, Issue 131

Send 44Net mailing list submissions to 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 44net-request(a)mailman.ampr.org You can reach the person managing the list at 44net-owner(a)mailman.ampr.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 44Net digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 44NET Route Objects IRR (Caleb Pal) 2. Re: 44NET Route Objects IRR (G1FEF) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Caleb Pal <cleb(a)defcon-3.net> To: James Colderwood via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 08:57:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [44net] 44NET Route Objects IRR Hello, Your upstream providers may be able to put a proxy obj into the ARIN db for you. Unfortunately ARIN changed their IRR db in June of this year. They added a web based IRR service. According to ARIN, the web based service only allows you to add object for resources you own (your upstream ISP could not create those proxy objects since they do not own the 44net resources). If they still use the ARIN email IRR system, they can add proxy objects, they will just appear as ARIN-NOAUTH in the IRR db. I don't think NOAUTH is a problem for most providers now, but could be down the road if they start filtering/ignoring NOAUTH entries. Of course altdb, radb and others are options (full list at: http://www.irr.net/docs/list.html). Not sure how other RIR's outside the US are handling NOAUTH entries. I assume since AMPR does not have a RSA with ARIN, Chris cannot create IRR records for those folks who BGP advertise AMPR resources? v/r, Caleb On 12/13/2020 10:08, James Colderwood via 44Net wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: G1FEF <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:26:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [44net] 44NET Route Objects IRR The vast majority of folk advertising their subnet over BGP are using altdb with no issues (currently). IIRC, altdb is run by one person, so if you don’t already have a MNTNER object there, it can sometimes take some time to get one. Chris > v/r, > > Caleb > > On 12/13/2020 10:08, James Colderwood via 44Net wrote: >> Hi Pierre, >> >> Thank you for the heads up. I was aware of altdb but it hadn't crossed >> my mind. Hopefully one of these solutions will work :-). >> >> On 2020-12-13 17:32, Pierre Emeriaud wrote: >>> Le dim. 13 déc. 2020 à 12:04, G1FEF via 44Net >>> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> On 13 Dec 2020, at 09:54, James Colderwood via 44Net >>>> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> May I wish you all happy holidays! >>>>> >>>>> Quick question, I'm working on establising my 3rd upstream but hit >>>> a snag. The suppliers validation automation prohibits announcing >>>> AMPR addresses as the system can't qualify validity. >>>> >>>> Are you talking about automatically checking entries in an IRR, or >>>> RPKI? >>> >>> For service providers requesting an IRR route object to automate >>> filter creation I've been using altdb. While it has not a lot of

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