3 Aug
2022
3 Aug
'22
12:13 a.m.
Hi Rosy and thanks for your detailed email.
As a holder of 44.136.160 (BGP Advertised) it would be great to find
out if I have to move to 44.31 and if so when. One of our use cases is
part of a very large DMR repeater network. Many changes will require
trips to very remote mountain tops to reprogram repeaters. These
repeaters are located thousands of KM from each other and as you can
understand it's a massive job. Ironically we changed the servers all to
the 44 net so we would not have to re-number our addresses going forward
which had been a limitation of commercial offerings in the past.
We understand and are grateful that ARDC has given us the space but
would be very appreciative if we could have some warning of the changes
and some time to cut over (at least 6 months) and if plans were
forwarded to stakeholders by an official and unified channel. So far All
I know about these changes have been gleamed from different emails in
the mailing list that at times im to busy to concentrate on.
Thanks again for the update and I appreciate the opportunity to ask some
questions.
Matt
VK2FLY - VKRadNET
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On 3/8/2022 6:15 am, Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net wrote:
Dear 44Net mailing list members,
Weaving through many of the messages from the past few weeks, I’m
aware that folks have some questions around why G1FEF has been
organizing BGP requests in 44.31/16. Behind these questions, in some
cases, is a sense of uncertainty around whether or not ARDC is going
to sell any more address space. Some members of the TAC have requested
that I speak to you all about these issues, and to create space where
you can ask questions. So here we go
G1FEF has been putting BGP allocations into 44.31/16 for a few reasons:
* Currently there are BGP “holes” randomly scattered throughout our
address space. This makes it harder to manage, especially when trying
to spot unauthorized announcements, which we get a lot of.
* We inherited the “give a /16 to every region or country” practice
from the 1990’s which has resulted in extremely sparse use of the
space. We'd be better “netizens” if we used the space more effectively.
* The HAMNET issue (needing a static set of addresses for BGP routing)
is also a consideration, as they are the largest consumers of our
address space by far.
All told, Chris is doing his best to engage in best practices absent a
more robust policy around BGP. Creating that policy is definitely on
the list, and ideally fits into a greater vision around next steps for
the address space (PoPs? Better organizing assignments for one reason
or another? etc.). Data from our recent assessment is helping us to
put together that vision. Thank you to all of you who shared your
thoughts.
In terms of whether ARDC is planning to sell more addresses: while it
may happen at some point in the future, there are no current plans,
short or medium term, to do so. The non-inconsequential effort
involved in overcoming the tax and operational implications of such a
move would only make sense after taking into account the views of the
44Net community on a vision for overall address space usage and
associated future plans.
In the meantime, many thanks for your patience amid the uncertainty.
Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Sincerely,
Rosy