Hi Matt, Thank you for this message and for speaking to the real logistics required in the event of needing an address change. If/when that's the case, we will give as much advance warning as possible, though again, it's not on the table any time soon. All the best, Rosy Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ampr.org On 8/2/22 4:13 PM, Matt - VK2FLY via 44net wrote:

On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 02:02:15PM +1000, Tony Langdon via 44net wrote: My /24 was moved from 44.135.x.x to 44.31.x.x a year or so ago, and I was given an overlap period to gradually make the transition. I'd have rather not had to make the change, but given the temporary overlap, it really wasn't too horrible. I had the simultaneous issue of needing to change BGP advertisers, but I was able to solve that problem as well, and that's a problem that most people in this situation shouldn't face. Jim

Hi All, Just to answer some of the questions and concerns regarding BGP announcements… New requests for BGP announcements are going into 44.31/16 and yes, this is to replace 44.190/16 If anyone is willing to renumber into this range then that would be great and I am very happy to work with you to provide a new assignment with an overlap of whatever period you feel you need to complete the renumbering process. Please email me direct: chris(a)ardc.net <mailto:chris@ardc.net> to discuss. As the license period for BGP assignments last for 5 years, I am asking folk to renumber when their current licence runs out, but again an overlap period is perfectly ok. More generally, if you do currently have a BGP assignment, please do check when it was first issued so your licence/LOA can be renewed in good time, I am happy to renew LOA’s anytime in the last 12 months of their active period. I would also like to remind everyone that you do need to login to the portal on a regular basis in order to keep your assignments. The system currently sends reminder emails out at 6 months, 9 months and 12 months. The wording of these emails get ever increasingly more “urgent”. If you login at least once every 6 months you will never be sent a reminder email. At 15 months (of no login from you) your account is removed and any resources (address assignments, gateways) are removed. The only exception to this, is if you are a coordinator for a country or regional allocation, in which case your account is still removed, but the allocation is re-assigned to a special admin account that can’t be deleted. i.e. only “User” networks are ever removed. I have been asked many times why we do this, the answer is that it’s the only way we have of keeping the portal at anything like up to date. The idea was originally Brian Kantor's, prior to the portal he had assignments on his spreadsheet for folks that had gone SK or just lost interest and stopped using the addresses. Unlike a commercial organisation, where if you stop paying for your resources they get taken away, we have no other way of knowing if someone has gone SK or just lost interest and moved on. 73, Chris - G1FEF

I have had mine reissued in the new range. Only pet hate is each time you have to fill out the forms (different order on questions / wording). Should of been a bit more you have a current range, just swap over. Other than that process was easy plus the hand over period is pretty good compared to other industrial standards 73s 2e0emo On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, 09:08 Tony Langdon via 44net, &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:

Thanks for the detailed info Chris. I will be in contact. Matt On 3/8/2022 5:26 pm, Chris Smith via 44net wrote: -- _____ _____ |___ |___ / Matt Perkins VK2FLY/VK2VO (advanced) / / |_ \ Woolloomooloo NSW (QF56od) +61403571333matt(a)vk2fly.com / / ___) | A proud member of ARNSW, The WIA, /_/ |____/ And the Waverley Amateur Radio Society.

Hi, Le 03/08/2022 à 09:26, Chris Smith via 44net a écrit : I am was the network administrator for a full région (the island of Corsica). But my allocations were deleted without any re-allocation, and without any previous warning. This is because I was considered as a "single user" and nor as a "region coordinator". This is one of the reasons that made us drop 44net addressing, and revert back to standard public addresses : the need of control and stability. On the engineering point of view, I see several things that could be improved : - AFAIK the "region coordinator" role does not exist. I checked the "region allocation " checkbox on the portal during creation. But I still was considered as a "single user". That's why a simple mistake shut down a full region ! Maybe,you should create the role of "region coordinator", which may be something between the "country coordinator" and the "user". - A /24 subnet is not given to a single user (or I don't understand anything to the IP distribution policy). A /24 subnet means a network is located behind. Then, a /24 allocation should never be deleted without additional verification, because this may break a lot of things. Instead, it should (as suggested) be put on "parking", and allocated to the upstream coordinator. - My network monitoring and Vultr (my BGP provider) informed me that the BGP announcement has been stopped ! I did not receive any notification from ARDC ! That's a severe drawback ! IMHO, before doing such critical actions, a warning email must be sent 30, 15, 7, 3 and 1 day before ! Moreover, when our 44.190 allocation has been removed by mistake, and despite the fact renumbering to 44.31 was agreed, re-allocation of our 44.190 for a transition period has not been accepted immediately. I had to exchange several (more than 20) private emails with several people. This dose of instability and uncertainty was the main reason why we decides to drop 44net BGP addressing, and switch to commercial IPs on which we have full control. Other reasons can be found here  : "In terms of whether ARDC is planning to sell more addresses: while it may happen at some point in the future, ../.." "ARDC have no plans to provide an SLA of any kind." "The IP addresses are offered free of charge to individual licensed radio amateurs on a best efforts basis. There is no guarantee that the IPs will remain available, ARDC also reserve the right to withdraw permission to use addresses for any reason." -- We, sysop and network maintainers, spend a lot of time and money. Data center housings, virtual servers, fiber optics and transit are offered to the HAM community, but they are not free ! And even less when you're living on a remote island ! We can't afford building networks, VPN, POPs an regional-wide coverage, with still having the risk of things being completely taken down for any reason, and without any previous notification ! PS : The advocacy about our particular problem has been closed 2 weeks ago (An arrangement was proposed, but we decided to drop 44net, and switch to commercial IPs). I just hope those comments will help improve the 44Net allocation / withdrawal processes, so that sysops can obtain 44net addresses with sufficient level of stability. I have been an ardent 44net promoter during the last few years. During the next years, I'll remain an active follower... 73 de TK1BI

Hi Tony, There's not an official plan, but I do agree with Chris that it's a good idea to transition to 44.31/16. At this time, there's only a request to move into that space, not a mandate of any kind. With that in mind, and in support of some better management practices, perhaps you can make a plan with Chris to make that transition? I don't see a reason why having an overlap for a period of time would be a problem at all. Let us know what you think, Rosy Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ampr.org

How about those of us that were recently moved to 44.127 ? We (IRLP) now have hundreds of IPs assigned in that space. It will be very difficult to move folks (again). — Dave K9DC, K9IP -- Dave Gingrich, K9DC Indianapolis, Indiana USA Dave(a)dcg.us +1 317 590-5932