31 Jul
2013
31 Jul
'13
6:51 p.m.
Hi all,
I've just set up my net44 gateway using a Debian machine running in the
cloud with a static IP. My plan is to use this machine as an
IPIP-to-OpenVPN adapter so that I can run my subnet from home via my LTE
connection, with will not support IPIP. I set up the machine with Debian
linux and rip44d.
I'm currently receiving the routing table from 44.0.0.1, and I'm able to
ping several net44 machines in my area (44.4.2.153 and 44.4.50.1 for
example), however, my linux machine is not able to ping 44.0.0.1. At first
I assumed that this was a security policy, however, I'm also not able to
access the ampr.org website from that machine now. in addition, I'm unable
to ping my machine's net44 address from the internet.
Is this a result of gw.ampr.org not updating it's gateway list, and thus
not knowing how to route to me, or have I missed something obvious?
Also, if anyone with a properly maintained gateway list could ping me
at 44.4.36.1
and let me know the result, I'd appreciate it.
Thank you,
Blaine
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Blaine Forbort, K1QV
Vallejo California
31 Jul
31 Jul
7:20 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 04:51:08PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
I'm currently receiving the routing table from
44.0.0.1
Which means that the amprgw system has your gateway address and route ok,
and that you're receiving IPIP encapsulated packets from amprgw.
, and I'm able to
ping several net44 machines in my area (44.4.2.153 and
44.4.50.1 for
example), however, my linux machine is not able to ping 44.0.0.1.
44.0.0.1 doesn't respond to pings from amprnet because of brokeness.
It's a bug in the kernel on amprgw which I've never been able to track down.
to ping my machine's net44 address from the
internet.
Is this a result of gw.ampr.org not updating it's gateway list, and thus
not knowing how to route to me, or have I missed something obvious?
If you're receiving the routes, you're in the gateway list on gw.
It updates in real time when gateways changes are made on the portal.
I note that your gateway machine is not responding to pings from the
Internet on its commercial address. You might try running tcpdump on
your gateway system to see if pings from the Internet are reaching it
on either its commercial address or via IPIP on its AMPR address, and
to see if and how it is replying to those ping requests.
- Brian
7:54 p.m.
44.0.0.1 doesn't respond to pings from amprnet
because of brokeness.
It's a bug in the kernel on amprgw which I've never been able to track
down.
Ok, that solves that part of the mystery. I'm still curious as to why I
cannot get to the webpage however.
I note that your gateway machine is not responding to
pings from the
Internet on its commercial address.
Well, that's very curious indeed. I just pinged my machine, and it
responded just fine for me.
$ ping ampr.k1qv.com
PING ampr.k1qv.com (54.214.234.149): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 54.214.234.149: icmp_seq=0 ttl=42 time=67.445 ms
64 bytes from 54.214.234.149: icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=86.558 ms
64 bytes from 54.214.234.149: icmp_seq=2 ttl=42 time=84.399 ms
64 bytes from 54.214.234.149: icmp_seq=3 ttl=42 time=98.167 ms
--- ampr.k1qv.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 67.445/84.142/98.167/10.970 ms
Not really sure what's going on here. As I said, I pinged
n6mef-gw.ampr.org(44.4.2.153)
as a test with tcpdump running. I see the IPIP encapsulated ICMP requests
and replies working as they should between my machine and his gateway...
So... we know that I'm receiving IPIP encapsulated traffic from 44.0.0.1
because I'm receiving the RIP traffic, however, tcpdump shows no inbound
traffic when trying to ping my 44.4.36.1 address from the internet.
Stupid question here, was I correct in assuming that my net44 subnet was
routable from the internet?
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Blaine Forbort, K1QV
8:03 p.m.
New subject: OFFLIST Re: question regarding amprgw.sysnet.ucsd.edu
Worked OK for me too:
ping ampr.k1qv.com
Pinging ampr.k1qv.com [54.214.234.149] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.214.234.149: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=43
Reply from 54.214.234.149: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=43
Reply from 54.214.234.149: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=43
Reply from 54.214.234.149: bytes=32 time=234ms TTL=43
Ping statistics for 54.214.234.149:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 185ms, Maximum = 234ms, Average = 197ms
73 vk2akg
on 31 Jul 2013 at 17:54 Blaine Forbort <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> wrote:
Well, that's very curious indeed. I just
pinged my machine, and it
responded just fine for me.
8:09 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 17:54 -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
Stupid question here, was I correct in assuming that
my net44 subnet
was
routable from the internet?
It is once you have a valid DNS entry associated with your gateway's IP:
n1uro@n1uro:~/ham$ host !$
host 44.4.36.1
Host 1.36.4.44.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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73 de Brian Rogers - N1URO
email: <n1uro(a)n1uro.ampr.org>
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
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axMail-Fax & URONode
AmprNet coordinator for:
Delaware, all New England,
and New Jersey.
8:10 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 05:54:11PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
Yes, and it responded ok for me too as soon as I stopped mistyping
its address. Sorry. Stupid typo.
I note that
your gateway machine is not responding to pings from the
Internet on its commercial address.
Well, that's very curious indeed. I just
pinged my machine, and it
responded just fine for me. Stupid question here, was I correct in assuming that
my net44 subnet was
routable from the internet?
Does your ampr host have an A record in the ampr.org DNS? If not it won't
be reachable from the internet even if the subnet is correctly routed.
There's a filter in amprgw that requires DNS entries for all hosts to be
reachable. The entire subnet is NOT reachable as a whole.
- Brian
8:16 p.m.
Ah!! I had a feeling I was missing something, but I didn't see that in
any of the documentation I was looking at.
My DNS request is still waiting for coordinator approval. I guess I'll
be waiting for that until I can finish off this first step of my
experiment.
Thanks for the help,
Blaine, K1QV
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 05:54:11PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
Yes, and it responded ok for me too as soon as I stopped mistyping
its address. Sorry. Stupid typo.
I note
that your gateway machine is not responding to pings from the
Internet on its commercial address.
Well, that's very curious indeed. I just
pinged my machine, and it
responded just fine for me. Stupid question here, was I correct in assuming
that my net44 subnet was
routable from the internet?
Does your ampr host have an A record in the ampr.org DNS? If not it won't
be reachable from the internet even if the subnet is correctly routed.
There's a filter in amprgw that requires DNS entries for all hosts to be
reachable. The entire subnet is NOT reachable as a whole.
- Brian
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8:25 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:16:32PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
My DNS request is still waiting for coordinator
approval. I guess I'll
be waiting for that until I can finish off this first step of my
experiment.
Does that mean that you submitted it via the portal.ampr.org DNS
function? I'm sorry, that function isn't working yet. I've asked
for it to be taken off the portal menu until it *is* working as it
confuses people.
Your address coordinator should submit a DNS update after he
assigned you your subnet and you give him the hostnames.
I can do that for you if needed.
- Brian
9:53 p.m.
Yes, I did submit the DNS request via the portal. I wasn't aware that
it wasn't currently working.
Would it be possible for you to create a CNAME record for
k1qv.ampr.org. to point to ampr.k1qv.com.
If not, I can take an A name at 44.4.36.1
Thanks for the help with all this,
Blaine, K1QV
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:16:32PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
My DNS request is still waiting for coordinator
approval. I guess I'll
be waiting for that until I can finish off this first step of my
experiment.
Does that mean that you submitted it via the portal.ampr.org DNS
function? I'm sorry, that function isn't working yet. I've asked
for it to be taken off the portal menu until it *is* working as it
confuses people.
Your address coordinator should submit a DNS update after he
assigned you your subnet and you give him the hostnames.
I can do that for you if needed.
- Brian
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9:59 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:53:39PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
Would it be possible for you to create a CNAME record
for
k1qv.ampr.org. to point to ampr.k1qv.com.
If not, I can take an A name at 44.4.36.1
I can do either one, but they have vastly different meanings.
The first, for example, won't get you an A record in the AMPR.ORG
zone file, so there won't be a corresponding filter entry and
packets from the internet won't be routed to your 44.4.36.1
address.
Let me know what you want to do.
- Brian
10:11 p.m.
Well, it's going to make routing even more complicated on my end, but
I'll have to take the A name for the filter entry. Then I'll be on to
the next step of my great experiment!
Blaine, K1QV
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:53:39PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
Would it be possible for you to create a CNAME
record for
k1qv.ampr.org. to point to ampr.k1qv.com.
If not, I can take an A name at 44.4.36.1
I can do either one, but they have vastly different meanings.
The first, for example, won't get you an A record in the AMPR.ORG
zone file, so there won't be a corresponding filter entry and
packets from the internet won't be routed to your 44.4.36.1
address.
Let me know what you want to do.
- Brian
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1 Aug
1 Aug
9:04 a.m.
New subject: AMRP DNS NS records?
I noticed that on AMPRNet portal DNS settings do not offer setting NS
records for domains. Whz is that?
I have full capable host and it can easily deal with DNS zone for domain
I choose. Al I need is to be able to set NS record to point to my host.
As it is not is too much hustle. First I have to manually maintain DNS
and then, my host assumes that if it hosts domain then it hosts DNS zone
too.
Pedja YT9TP
12:03 a.m.
I didn't know that was not working and didn't know has to forward DNS
requests to you.
I'll have to go through my requests and update you.
Thanks.
-Neil
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:16:32PM -0700, Blaine Forbort wrote:
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My DNS request is still waiting for coordinator
approval. I guess I'll
be waiting for that until I can finish off this first step of my
experiment.
Does that mean that you submitted it via the portal.ampr.org DNS
function? I'm sorry, that function isn't working yet. I've asked
for it to be taken off the portal menu until it *is* working as it
confuses people.
Your address coordinator should submit a DNS update after he
assigned you your subnet and you give him the hostnames.
I can do that for you if needed.
- Brian
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