Thank you Tom Im not familiar with pyton and scripts in general I need the simple commands to do tunnel Maybe you can give me the output of this script so i will know the commands and i will type them to the router Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 9:18 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] How to config mikrotik router for IPIP (and more)

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Apr 3, 2016 07:54, "R P" ronenp@hotmail.com wrote:

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Here is a script that will generate all the commands:

https://github.com/kd7lxl/python-amprapi/blob/master/README.md

Dear Tom admin Password is Orbit232& The router is currently sit on 44 Network Its IP is 44.138.1.39 and accessible from NON ampr address for sure (i can access it from work ) by web or telnet the 44 net routing currently made by a cisco router so until i will not change its IP to the one that the Cisco sit one and disconnect the cisco the tunnel from UCSD will not work if you want a drawing of my network for better understand let me know Best 73's Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Tom Hayward esarfl@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 2:39 PM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] How to config mikrotik router for IPIP (and more)

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM, R P ronenp@hotmail.com wrote:

Thank you Tom Im not familiar with pyton and scripts in general I need the simple commands to do tunnel Maybe you can give me the output of this script so i will know the commands and i will type them to the router Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

The output of the script depends on what is already configured on your router. The script looks at what's already there and then issues (or prints) the commands required to update it to match the current list of gateways and routes. This changes often, so if I just posted the commands they would likely be outdated by the time you implemented them.

If you set up an SSH account for me on your router, I can run the script from here and email you the output. I can set it up to run with cron so that it emails you the list of commands needed to update it every hour. After a few hours of this, you may understand why it is provided as an automatic script!

Tom KD7LXL _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

Dear Brian Im sorry for the mess i have done i count on the hams (after all we are a close community and the mailing list is private) i dont think any one of us is a Router barker or Hacker and the router is not a router of a critical ISP it sit here only for test purposes (currently) it doesn't deal with any connectivity and if it will totally die nothing will happen to the network so even if some "evil" will flash it i lost 30 Dollars However lucky me im at work (its a day now) and I have enough hosts to Crawl to the router (even after blocking its address) and I have changed his password (now I understand why i have stopped to see from here the online log (the connectivity to the outside world blocked)) You can release the address block Sorry for the trouble Regards Ronen - 4Z4ZQ Tom I will mail you privet the new password

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Brian Kantor Brian@UCSD.Edu Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:13 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] How to config mikrotik router for IPIP (and more)

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 06:15:29AM +0000, R P wrote:

Dear Tom admin Password is XXXXXXXXX

Ronen, it was A VERY BAD IDEA to post the admin password to the mailing list.

44net networking is designed in manner that is not how standard routers are supposed to work.

Search list archive for Marius YO2LOJ posts about Mikrotik. Recently, he provided the only usable solution.

The best for now is to give up, and use some Linux device (like Raspberry Pi) to set 44networking.

If you really like to use Mikrotik, you can seek for someone who is already connected to allow you access and routing via VPN. There are fellow hams willing to do that.

Pedja YT9TP

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 11:39:46AM +0300, Marius Petrescu wrote:

Pedja, it is not the only usable solution, and it requires a powerful router.

Tom Hayward's script running on another machine and connecting to the router via ssh is more "energy efficient" and works very well.

Marius, yo2loj

Except of course it requires that you have "another machine" capable of running the script, which because it is written in Python (a very powerful language) requires that the additional machine have Python installed. Very few Windows machines have that, and no DOS. It usually requires Linux, so you're back to square one.

It's my impression that trying to use a conventional router to do the amprnet mesh is like using a wrench to drive nails -- it can be done but it's far from the proper tool. - Brian

On 5.4.2016. 10:39, Marius Petrescu wrote:

Pedja, it is not the only usable solution, and it requires a powerful router.

Tom Hayward's script running on another machine and connecting to the router via ssh is more "energy efficient" and works very well.

Yes, if you do not count that you have to have another machine. For me that cannot be counted as usable if we speak n context of people who are not experts in linux and do not already have linux machine at disposal.

Your solution is way better, even if it requires more powerfull router.

Pedja YT9TP