On 1/30/14 12:47 AM, Heikki Hannikainen wrote: This, i've got it going, but requiring a mesh of tunnels is nasty and it's hard to maintain (absent custom protocols) As it stands now, my BGP space can talk to the rest of the internet, but no other 44/8 (excluding the 9 BGP subnets). I'd love to write up an draft proposal for AMPRnet on how to fix this, but I just don't have the time right now. I'd want it as a standard that works on all routers at least for the "core". Perhaps even a route reflector software would work (ALU/CSCO/JNPR have this now). Even foundcade would work, the MLX's don't shit the bed anymore :) Mikrotik is not something you can put in a CO/datacenter for obvious reasons. I'd love to say we need a custom protocol, but the chances of getting that supported on anything production grade is slim to none. Argh, I'll have to make time to do this. I travel about 75% of the time for work, it sucks. I'm a bit hungover in an airport now even :) 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net