Lastly, I guess it was forgotten we all can access the DNS records. I want to highlight something of major concern.I'm begging Rosy to stop doing this misquote of the original count or records to make it seem as if there's today an issue under a new portal system that now handles DNS records. I have no clue why this falsehood keeps being perpetuated to the 44net family. Again if they can be handled post-policy, they take utlization the same resources/CPU/skill to identify and handle now.- KB3VWG -------- Original message --------From: lleachii--- via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> Date: 6/13/24 06:33 (GMT-05:00) To: Chris <chris(a)ardc.net> Cc: Steve L <kb9mwr(a)gmail.com>om>, Amprnet 44 Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> Subject: [44net] Re: Update re: subdomains As I've already explained, after a 4-year process, we have been approved for governmental installation. Your so-called "policy" is causing concerns where we actually use RF for emergencies.I would need to know when I need to notify organizations that this policy affect their emergency communications plansI need to schedule thisOur sponsor's approval process may be canceled anyway (i.e. your network seems to just make arbitrary changes without even considering the infrastructure, users, usage, DOWNTIME, etc.) - for something like DNS that usually remains untouched once setYou can just imagine other logistics particular to those points. I'm not sure if you think people merely "play radio" or what infrastructure, but please keep in mind people who really have concerns when you send these emails from California (or whatever radio vacation spot foundation funds accommodate communication).Til this date, nobody has once said when changes may actually affect the users, which I find scary for folks who claim to work professionally in the IT field. Most times, we only find out after issues have occurred/discovered. Why am I the only person who finds that odd?- KB3VWG- KB3VWG On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 06:11:09 AM EDT, lleachii--- via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: Chris,I have logged in and understand that the portal system says "with user".What I do not understand is this -Is there a policy in place?Will you then proceed to delete these "non callsign" entries once one it is implemented?You all may not have noticed, but I'm being very particular NOT to agree to new DNS terms, IP record changes, etc. (i.e. stuff that preexisted your control of this domain and space). Before I post the text (since it's quite similar to what I read posted by an ARDC employee), I will not quote it at this time. Please offer clarity (publicly, because you have said some derogatory things to me before in private which you seem uncourageous to say publicly - so I'm uncomfortable) before I proceed.I also need ARDC to understand that there will be concerns if you then proceed to delete entries I've made very clear I wish to continue use of (as well as my GOVERNMENTAL RACES SPONSOR). I've explained the nature of your inheritance, but somehow - I need to clarify this seemingly contrary policy before I agree.Please note, my records also show and indicate this "policy" is not because of the numerous amount of DNS records - I will not discuss this further here. Anyone seeing the updates on portal ticket clearing statistics can see that. And if your answer is YES to the latter question above - common sense also provides that you can just as well identify and handle them, as you would need to do so to accomplish that task. Yet, a hassle for records I'm in fact attempting to claim (over and over - obviously I'm making records that I'm clamming them)?Since I pray common scene now prevails - I simply ask you not hold my records "hostage" in this commercialization game.Thanks and 73,LynwoodKB3VWG(reviewed by a Sensitivity Expert, please be courageous and secretly report the entire text as a Code of Conduct violation if you desire, including this disclaimer to show your ignorance - yes this portion was reviewed as well) On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 03:17:04 PM EDT, Chris via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: Lynwood,Please check your tickets, I replied 2 day ago, just waiting on your reply.73,Chris - G1FEFOn 12 Jun 2024, at 18:43, lleachii--- via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: I have not been allowed to make those edits. On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 01:36:45 PM EDT, Steve L via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: In my opinion for the purposes of tracking ownership, nonstandard subdomains should only exist via a cname record.Example of Lynwood (doing it correctly in my opinion)speedtest.ampr.org.     300     IN      CNAME   kb3vwg-010.ampr.org.kb3vwg-010.ampr.org.    300     IN      A       44.60.44.10In theory speedtest.ampr.org could have a direct A record.. such asspeedtest.ampr.org.    300     IN      A       44.60.44.10But that is problematic.Just my 2 cents.On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 12:11 PM Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:Dear 44Net community, It’s been just over two months since we launched the new Portal. It came with, as you have seen, some major bumps. Today, ARDC is resolving, at least temporarily, one of those hurdles: administrative access to subdomains. As of today, anyone who had a subdomain with ampr.org before the launch of the new Portal on April 3, 2024, will, for now, have full access to their DNS records. This includes subdomains that fall outside of our preferred format of callsign.ampr.org. This administrative access still depends on call sign verification, which requires confirming given name, family name, email, and valid amateur radio license. This step helps us ensure that the network is being used by valid amateur radio operators. During our recent work, we’ve found several bad actors, which is both unfair to the community and a security risk. We’ve also made a functional change to the portal: once a call sign is verified, you are now automatically able to create a subdomain with the format of callsign.ampr.org. All other new requests for subdomains that fall outside of that format (e.g., foo.ampr.org, which I’ll refer to as nonstandard subdomains for brevity) will require review and approval. Please note that we will be limiting the number of nonstandard subdomains going forward. Thus, if you have one (or, in some cases, many more), please consider it temporary. You can currently create as many second-level subdomains as you want—e.g., foo.callsign.ampr.org, bar.callsign.ampr.org, etc. We are working on a more official policy around subdomains using ampr.org. As promised at the recent regional coordinators' meeting, we will ensure you can see this policy before officially implementing it. We will also provide a transition period, likely many months, for users to edit their entries before official deprecation. This is, ultimately, what we should have done initially, and we take responsibility for not following a better process and, instead, rolling out this change without taking proper preparatory steps. Some of you may be wondering why we are making this change in the first place. It is because, without doing so, we end up in our current and very unwieldy situation: a database of over 51,000 DNS entries, most without knowledge of who they belong to, accumulated over at least a decade, with very few entries currently in use. If we aim to increase the usage of 44Net, then we need a system where we understand ownership and are able to provide an efficient service where we can address problems as they arise. For now, we hope that this helps to unblock anyone that currently feels blocked, while also providing an ample notice for changes that are coming down the pipeline at a later, though likely not-so-distant date. If you have questions, please ask. 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