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*Hey Everyone,*
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Before we trained folks in our community on ticket handling, we had about 996 tickets open and awaiting response (as of October 4)*.
At our Ticket Party yesterday (10/16), in about 2.5 hours, we closed 430 tickets for call sign verification, resulting in 148 call sign verification tickets open and awaiting a response, bringing the overall number of tickets open and awaiting a response to 316. This event was a major success in reducing our ticket backlog!
We want to extend a major thank you to all of our volunteers who showed up at our Ticket Party yesterday, along with folks who attended our training session last week:
John Burwell KI5QKX
John Davis WB4QDX
Kevin Duffelmeyer KD2PDL
Chip Eckardt W9OQI
Dave Gingrich K9DC
Rich Gopstein KD2CQ
Austin Hadley KE8YGW
Trevor Halsey KD8SEP
George Kirn N9PNO
Dave Koberstein N9DK
Toshiyuki “Tom” Mabuchi JF3LGC
Ronnie Montgomery W0RDM
Peter Pototsky NH6FU
Boudewijn “Bob” Tenty VE3TOK
Jann Traschewski DG8NGN
Răzvan Zeceş YO6RZV
If you participated in eliminating this backlog, and your name is not on this list, please let me know, so we can acknowledge your contributions. We couldn’t have done this without all of you!
73,
Rebecca KO4KVG
*To summarize our previously reported ticket statistics,
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996 total (i.e., in addition to call sign verification) tickets were open and awaiting response as of October 4.
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717 total tickets were open and awaiting response as of October 11.
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316 total tickets were open and awaiting response at the conclusion of the Ticket Party on October 16. This number was achieved due to:
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Volunteers closing 430 call sign verification tickets!
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Wow! That's a really wonderful accomplishment worth celebrating. Congratulations, all! As portal users, we really appreciate the work you put in.
I'm extra delighted to see a wide mix of international representation in the volunteer-base as well.
Cheers, jof
On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 10:01, Rebecca Key via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
*Hey Everyone,*
- Before we trained folks in our community on ticket handling, we had
about 996 tickets open and awaiting response (as of October 4)*. At our Ticket Party yesterday (10/16), in about 2.5 hours, we closed 430 tickets for call sign verification, resulting in 148 call sign verification tickets open and awaiting a response, bringing the overall number of tickets open and awaiting a response to 316. This event was a major success in reducing our ticket backlog! We want to extend a major thank you to all of our volunteers who showed up at our Ticket Party yesterday, along with folks who attended our training session last week: John Burwell KI5QKX John Davis WB4QDX Kevin Duffelmeyer KD2PDL Chip Eckardt W9OQI Dave Gingrich K9DC Rich Gopstein KD2CQ Austin Hadley KE8YGW Trevor Halsey KD8SEP George Kirn N9PNO Dave Koberstein N9DK Toshiyuki “Tom” Mabuchi JF3LGC Ronnie Montgomery W0RDM Peter Pototsky NH6FU Boudewijn “Bob” Tenty VE3TOK Jann Traschewski DG8NGN Răzvan Zeceş YO6RZV If you participated in eliminating this backlog, and your name is not on this list, please let me know, so we can acknowledge your contributions. We couldn’t have done this without all of you! 73, Rebecca KO4KVG *To summarize our previously reported ticket statistics, - 996 total (i.e., in addition to call sign verification) tickets were open and awaiting response as of October 4. - 717 total tickets were open and awaiting response as of October 11. - 316 total tickets were open and awaiting response at the conclusion of the Ticket Party on October 16. This number was achieved due to: - Volunteers closing 430 call sign verification tickets! *
-- Rebecca Key - KO4KVG Communicaions Manager Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)ardc.net
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So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ
The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio.
Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?
-- Dave
Sent from my mobile...
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
If the commercial provider is using RF links where the frequencies are NOT in the amature spectrum space then have at er. If rhe frequencies are within the amature allocation than the traffic passing over that part of the network shall not be encrypted.Sent on the go, from somewhere other than here. -------- Original message --------From: Dave Koberstein via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Date: 2024-10-17 6:22 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: KI5PGJ ki5pgj@placebonol.com Cc: Rebecca Key rebecca@ardc.net, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: US encryption question over IPv6 transport The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio. Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?--DaveSent from my mobile...On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.Thanks LizKI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
Also just to be clear VXLAN is an encapsulation layer, not encryption.
You could consider a fair comparison as converting analog audio to a digital mode and then back to analogue.
It is just taking layer 2 packets and wrapping them up into a layer three transport.
Nathan Brookfield Managing Director
On 18 Oct 2024, at 11:37, Darcy Buskermolen via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
If the commercial provider is using RF links where the frequencies are NOT in the amature spectrum space then have at er. If rhe frequencies are within the amature allocation than the traffic passing over that part of the network shall not be encrypted.
Sent on the go, from somewhere other than here.
-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Koberstein via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Date: 2024-10-17 6:22 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: KI5PGJ ki5pgj@placebonol.com Cc: Rebecca Key rebecca@ardc.net, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: US encryption question over IPv6 transport
The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio.
Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?
-- Dave
Sent from my mobile...
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote: So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
I've been a network engineer for several decades which is why I stated they would provision a VLAN using VXLAN over their encrypted IPv6 commercial P2P link. They will provide an untagged switch port at either end for my use. Because they are a wireless ISP they use commercial RF spectrum.
Liz KI5PGJ
On October 17, 2024 7:44:15 PM MDT, Nathan Brookfield via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Also just to be clear VXLAN is an encapsulation layer, not encryption.
You could consider a fair comparison as converting analog audio to a digital mode and then back to analogue.
It is just taking layer 2 packets and wrapping them up into a layer three transport.
Nathan Brookfield Managing Director
On 18 Oct 2024, at 11:37, Darcy Buskermolen via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
If the commercial provider is using RF links where the frequencies are NOT in the amature spectrum space then have at er. If rhe frequencies are within the amature allocation than the traffic passing over that part of the network shall not be encrypted.
Sent on the go, from somewhere other than here.
-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Koberstein via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Date: 2024-10-17 6:22 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: KI5PGJ ki5pgj@placebonol.com Cc: Rebecca Key rebecca@ardc.net, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: US encryption question over IPv6 transport
The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio.
Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?
-- Dave
Sent from my mobile...
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote: So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
If you’ve been a network engineer for several decades, why would you even ask the question then, you should know that what you’re asking is completely permissible.
You should know the wireless segment is going over non-licensed frequencies or at best commercials licensed channels most likely and IPv6 has absolutely no relevance to the conversation.
Anyway you have your answer.
VK2NAB
On 18 Oct 2024, at 12:00, KI5PGJ via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
I've been a network engineer for several decades which is why I stated they would provision a VLAN using VXLAN over their encrypted IPv6 commercial P2P link. They will provide an untagged switch port at either end for my use. Because they are a wireless ISP they use commercial RF spectrum.
Liz KI5PGJ
On October 17, 2024 7:44:15 PM MDT, Nathan Brookfield via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote: Also just to be clear VXLAN is an encapsulation layer, not encryption.
You could consider a fair comparison as converting analog audio to a digital mode and then back to analogue.
It is just taking layer 2 packets and wrapping them up into a layer three transport.
Nathan Brookfield Managing Director
On 18 Oct 2024, at 11:37, Darcy Buskermolen via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
If the commercial provider is using RF links where the frequencies are NOT in the amature spectrum space then have at er. If rhe frequencies are within the amature allocation than the traffic passing over that part of the network shall not be encrypted.
Sent on the go, from somewhere other than here.
-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Koberstein via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Date: 2024-10-17 6:22 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: KI5PGJ ki5pgj@placebonol.com Cc: Rebecca Key rebecca@ardc.net, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: US encryption question over IPv6 transport
The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio.
Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?
-- Dave
Sent from my mobile...
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote: So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.orgmailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
Yep I do know that, which is why I shouldn't be sending emails to a technical mailing list when I'm half awake.
Sorry for the noise.
On October 17, 2024 8:05:50 PM MDT, Nathan Brookfield Nathan.Brookfield@nabih.com.au wrote:
If you’ve been a network engineer for several decades, why would you even ask the question then, you should know that what you’re asking is completely permissible.
You should know the wireless segment is going over non-licensed frequencies or at best commercials licensed channels most likely and IPv6 has absolutely no relevance to the conversation.
Anyway you have your answer.
VK2NAB
The life of a network admin, sleep isn’t our friend!!!
On 23 Oct 2024, at 01:02, KI5PGJ via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Yep I do know that, which is why I shouldn't be sending emails to a technical mailing list when I'm half awake.
Sorry for the noise.
On October 17, 2024 8:05:50 PM MDT, Nathan Brookfield Nathan.Brookfield@nabih.com.au wrote:
If you’ve been a network engineer for several decades, why would you even ask the question then, you should know that what you’re asking is completely permissible.
You should know the wireless segment is going over non-licensed frequencies or at best commercials licensed channels most likely and IPv6 has absolutely no relevance to the conversation.
Anyway you have your answer.
VK2NAB
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That's what I thought.
Thanks
Liz KI5PGJ
On October 17, 2024 7:37:21 PM MDT, Darcy Buskermolen darcyb@gmail.com wrote:
If the commercial provider is using RF links where the frequencies are NOT in the amature spectrum space then have at er. If rhe frequencies are within the amature allocation than the traffic passing over that part of the network shall not be encrypted.Sent on the go, from somewhere other than here. -------- Original message --------From: Dave Koberstein via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Date: 2024-10-17 6:22 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: KI5PGJ ki5pgj@placebonol.com Cc: Rebecca Key rebecca@ardc.net, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: US encryption question over IPv6 transport The traffic over the air can't be encrypted. It's ok to encrypt it over other parts of the path that aren't ham radio. Is that what you were asking or did I misunderstand?--DaveSent from my mobile...On Thu, Oct 17, 2024, 6:12 PM KI5PGJ via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:So, I know 44 traffic over wireless has to be unencrypted, however can 44 traffic run over encrypted wireless site to site IPv6 network. I have access to IPv6 rural Internet wireless provider commercial network, besides fiber to their sites they also have P2P wireless links. They encrypt their P2P traffic, they run VXLAN over these paths and said they could provide a VLAN where they share an RF site with an amateur repeater.Thanks LizKI5PGJ _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
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