I don't mind any disussion as long as people don't quote other people's replies and add their own ones. Quoting other people's text is only required when you react to those lines, and usually when you type above someone else's text it is completely superfluous. We all get all the messages, there is no need for us to read them 5 times. (I refer both to what I see happening in this thread, and in the other one with the long list of IP addresses a couple of days ago) That out of the way, it is correct what Andre writes about the Netherlands. Of course it is because of deregulation. The "we don't care what you do as long as you don't do it outside the amateur bands". We have wide-FM-stereo on 70cm as well, even with RDS :-) Rob