26 Feb
2015
26 Feb
'15
8:14 p.m.
Subject:
Re: [44net] Portal
From:
Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com>
Date:
02/26/2015 08:06 PM
To:
AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
I think if you were to open source the portal you would get more
volunteers. I, and many other open source developers, tend to wait to
jump in to a new project until we have an itch that needs scratching.
When a bug affects me, I'll look to the source to see if I can squash
it. If I can, the project maintainer can expect a patch from me. If
the source isn't public, I'll send a bug report to the developer. I
presume you would prefer patches to bug reports.
I agree with that. I have submitted several reports and explained my requirements to Tom
SP2L
but as I have no access to the code I cannot have a glance to see how quickly some of my
immediate
requirements can be built in, let alone do the work and submit it.
I still get "DNS requests" from users who apparently do not see the big red
print on top of the DNS page,
and I cannot edit the subnet structure in the system to match reality. I submitted it in
text form to
Chris long ago but it was not inserted.
We are currently building a HAMNET similar to what has been done in Germany and Austria,
and
we really need a working system some time. I fully understand that time is not always
available,
but some way has to be found to keep the day-to-day operations possible, maybe with a
lower
level access to the data when writing code for the userfriendly web frontend is the
bottleneck.
Rob
26 Feb
26 Feb
9:24 p.m.
New subject: Portal
I agree that some type of contributable portal code would be helpful. I'd
certainly contribute. Perhaps we just throw up a repo on github for
non-critical code (read: security related) with one or two folks at the
help to review pull requests.
I think this would help
1) decrease TODO list workload for Chris/Tom
2) increase portal features
3) quick bug fixes
4) still allow control over the project and avoid arbitrary code pushes
Thoughts? I wouldn't mind help getting everything setup for this
-Andrew
Kc2LTO
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rob Janssen <pe1chl(a)amsat.org> wrote:
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>
>> Subject:
>> Re: [44net] Portal
>> From:
>> Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com>
>> Date:
>> 02/26/2015 08:06 PM
>>
>> To:
>> AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
>>
>>
>> I think if you were to open source the portal you would get more
>> volunteers. I, and many other open source developers, tend to wait to
>> jump in to a new project until we have an itch that needs scratching.
>> When a bug affects me, I'll look to the source to see if I can squash
>> it. If I can, the project maintainer can expect a patch from me. If
>> the source isn't public, I'll send a bug report to the developer. I
>> presume you would prefer patches to bug reports.
>>
>
> I agree with that. I have submitted several reports and explained my
> requirements to Tom SP2L
> but as I have no access to the code I cannot have a glance to see how
> quickly some of my immediate
> requirements can be built in, let alone do the work and submit it.
>
> I still get "DNS requests" from users who apparently do not see the big
> red print on top of the DNS page,
> and I cannot edit the subnet structure in the system to match reality. I
> submitted it in text form to
> Chris long ago but it was not inserted.
>
> We are currently building a HAMNET similar to what has been done in
> Germany and Austria, and
> we really need a working system some time. I fully understand that time
> is not always available,
> but some way has to be found to keep the day-to-day operations possible,
> maybe with a lower
> level access to the data when writing code for the userfriendly web
> frontend is the bottleneck.
>
> Rob
>
9:25 p.m.
New subject: Portal
To clarify, too, this would be not only for the portal but the website as
well ... in which everyone could contribute to web content / wiki to
describe aspects of 44net and IP in Amateur Radio.
27 Feb
27 Feb
8:30 a.m.
New subject: Portal
On 26 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Andrew Ragone (RIT Student)
<ajr9166(a)rit.edu> wrote:
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I agree that some type of contributable portal code would be helpful. I'd
certainly contribute.
As I have said on this list previously, anyone that wants access to the repo the code is
stored on only has to ask and a login will be issued. I've issued quite a few logins
so far but still Tom is the only other person to actually do something.
I'd prefer not to put the code on a public repo, but to reiterate, ANYONE that wants
access only has to ask.
I've even setup Redmine, at the request of some would be developers, to assist in
collaboration but still no one else has contributed.
What more can I do?
Thanks,
Chris
9:21 a.m.
New subject: Portal
On 27 Feb 2015, at 08:30, G1FEF <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
As I have said on this list previously, anyone that
wants access to the repo the code is stored on only has to ask and a login will be issued.
I've issued quite a few logins so far but still Tom is the only other person to
actually do something.
I'd prefer not to put the code on a public repo, but to reiterate, ANYONE that wants
access only has to ask.
I've even setup Redmine, at the request of some would be developers, to assist in
collaboration but still no one else has contributed.
Hi Chris,
Can I get a login?
Thanks.
Bill Hill (M1BKF)
9:38 a.m.
New subject: Portal
On 27 Feb 2015, at 09:21, William Hill
<rtufty(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Chris,
Can I get a login?
Thanks.
Bill
No problem, I will drop you an email tomorrow when I'm back home.
Thanks,
Chris
2:38 p.m.
New subject: Portal
On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:30 AM, G1FEF
<chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
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Why the reluctance to put the code on a public repo that is easily accessible without
having to ask?
73,
-jav k4jh
On 26 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Andrew Ragone (RIT
Student) <ajr9166(a)rit.edu> wrote:
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_______________________________________________
I agree that some type of contributable portal code would be helpful. I'd
certainly contribute.
As I have said on this list previously, anyone that wants access to the repo the code is
stored on only has to ask and a login will be issued. I've issued quite a few logins
so far but still Tom is the only other person to actually do something.
I'd prefer not to put the code on a public repo, but to reiterate, ANYONE that wants
access only has to ask. 
8:58 p.m.
New subject: Portal
I have offered to help Chris before early in his project to get the ball
rolling. He asked me a few questions on whether or not I knew PHP and the
like but never heard a response. I walked away from it feeling that he
didn't need or want my help. I understand he is a busy person but I would
agree with the rest that open sourcing the code to someplace like GitHub
would be quite beneficial to everyone. It's not like people would be able
to manipulate AMPRNet using the code as I'm sure there are access controls
in place preventing that from occurring. But like others have said, we
should embrace open source as if Chris were to get hit by a bus tomorrow -
the knowledge would go with him.
Chris would still ostensibly have ultimate say on any code changes through
GitHub and of course deploying the code would be up to him unless others
have access to those servers to push the changes.
Technically we can make the entire process automated through build
deployment automation and configuration management. However, that's a
discussion that should take place with people who have the power to make
change. I'm willing to help but only if it is wanted.
28 Feb
28 Feb
11:24 a.m.
New subject: Portal
On 27 Feb 2015, at 20:58, Don Fanning
<don(a)00100100.net> wrote:
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I have offered to help Chris before early in his project to get the ball
rolling. He asked me a few questions on whether or not I knew PHP and the
like but never heard a response. I walked away from it feeling that he
didn't need or want my help.
Don, if I missed an email from you I apologise, I have issued several logins to the repo
to those that have asked, I am certainly interested in any help anyone can offer. I do get
a lot of emails and it is easy to miss the odd one when it gets buried in an inbox I
haven’t checked for a dew days, so apologies again, if you are still interested in helping
I am happy to issue you a login?
Regards,
Chris
10:21 p.m.
New subject: Portal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Chris <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
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Don, if I missed an email from you I apologise, I have
issued several
logins to the repo to those that have asked, I am certainly interested in
any help anyone can offer. I do get a lot of emails and it is easy to miss
the odd one when it gets buried in an inbox I haven’t checked for a dew
days, so apologies again, if you are still interested in helping I am happy
to issue you a login?
Regards,
Chris
No worries, Chris. It's was about a year ago and you were probably busy
with the move.
You mentioned in the email that the dns code was finished but was waiting
on logistics? Is there anything we can assist with that?
Cheers,
-Don
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