On 19/09/2017 6:57 PM, Steve L wrote: Looks good, now I just have to rejig my filters. :D -- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

One thing you may notice is that the new mailman.ampr.org list host is using 'greylisting' to filter out some spam; this means that the first time you post to the list after not having done so for some days, your posting will be delayed for some minutes. Also, many of your receiving hosts are doing the same thing, so until they learn the new list sending address, list mail will be delayed reaching you too. See the Wikipedia article on 'greylisting' for a more complete explanation of what's going on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting Our retry delay is set to 15 minutes, a common value. - Brian

Yes, 15 minutes is the out-of-the-box default value. I may do some tuning on it has we get more experience. - Brian On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:48:08AM -0500, Will Gwin wrote:

I've turned it back on for you. - Brian On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:46:51PM -0300, Luzemário Dantas wrote:

this time I did....good work On 9/19/2017 2:09 PM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:

On 9/19/2017 2:15 PM, Brian Kantor wrote: Brian, Right now, I'm feeling like it's working well and that I should just leave it alone and not jinx anything. But, that's not my nature. ;-) I switched to the "MIME digest" mode when the thread about threading came up, and I'm hopeful that this reply, which I _think_ will be threaded correctly, shows good behavior. My only question is: "How do I reply to a post that I'm reading in the digest, without having to bring up the .eml attachment in my email client?" In other words, is it possible to add or enable a "reply to" link on each post? I'm using Thunderbird, which shows the posts inline, but doesn't give a clickable link to reply to an individual post, so I have to open the "Attachments" tab at the bottom of the MIME digest, and count off the .eml files until I reach the attached email that I /think/ is the one, and double-click on that to reply to it. Is there a better way? Thanks for your help! Bill, W4EWH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

About half of the messages in this thread ended up in my spam folder (I use gmail as my mailbox with a custom domain). From looking at the message headers, I noticed what all the messages flagged as spam seem to have in common: dkim signatures. The dkim signatures are all failing because the body of the message is being altered with the footer message that mailman appends. That was obviously also happening with the old list, but it's reputation likely prevented that specific issue from being considered as highly as it is with this new listserv. I also noticed that neither listserv domain has spf records published. If a proper spf record can be published, and new messages start passing spf checks, perhaps the dkim failures won't weigh as heavily anymore??? I think the only way to prevent the dkim signatures from failing in the first place is to either replace the email address in the "From: " header, or to prevent modification of the message body by disabling the footer insertion.

okay I expect a delay...but hope it gets thru T On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm getting messages for this but it got moved to a different box...its not going to spam however. So congrats..it made the transition. T On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:

""If everything goes right, on September 19th (Tuesday) morning (Pacific time), I will move this mailing list from hamradio.ucsd.edu to its new home on mailman.ampr.org, which is currently an alias for amprgw." maybe I misunderstood what that meant On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:

On 9/19/17 4:58 PM, Brian Kantor wrote: Yea, unless you want to do the yahoo way and rewrite the email From:. The advice I give people is to not use yahoo/hotmail and the arrl.net forwarders. gmail seams to be rather easy to deal with IMO, but some people will just tag it as spam rather than unsubscribe. Couple of house keeping items: Can you setup the https://mailman.ampr.org/ to redirect to the main list page, and list 44net as a public list. Can you change the reply address to be the list? As it's a discussion list this makes it easier to reply and keeps people from cluttering up members boxes with needless direct replies. Can we make the archives public to make them searchable? Thank you, -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

On 9/19/17 6:03 PM, Tony Langdon wrote: Yea, I do it right, but most others don't. I'm of the opinion that it should be the default and then let people who want to reply direct make it the option. Makes for some fun emails to the list too :) -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

Tony et al; On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 18:12 -0400, Bryan Fields wrote: I've used Evolution for decades and it too has the option for private, list, or both when hitting reply. I wish my AquaMail for my Note 3 had that same option. -- I used to be a heavy gambler. But now I just make mental bets. That's how I lost my mind. -------- 73 de Brian - N1URO/AFT1BR, President - EastNet Packet Network https://www.eastnetpacket.org email: (see above) Web: http://www.n1uro.net/ Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/ (ipv4 AND ipv6) Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org Linux Amateur Radio Services axMail-Fax & URONode http://uronode.sourceforge.net http://axmail.sourceforge.net AmprNet coordinator for: Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

On 20/09/2017 4:15 AM, Brian Kantor wrote: Only problem I've got is no one has started a new thread, so I'm not able to train my filters easily, Gmail keeps seeing the messages as being from the old list when setting up the filter (because it looks earlier in the thread), but of course, the filter doesn't catch posts to the new list. -- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

Just change 'hamradio.ucsd.edu' to 'mailman.ampr.org': http://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net - Brian On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:42:12AM -0500, Tom Cardinal wrote: