22 Sep
2020
22 Sep
'20
8:10 p.m.
Good evening,
it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in the ampr.org DNS
zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to have gone. Could someone please
point me into the right direction how this is done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
22 Sep
22 Sep
8:43 p.m.
Hi Mark,
Contact me off list for information.
73
Chris - G1FEF
On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Good evening,
it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in the ampr.org DNS
zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to have gone. Could someone please
point me into the right direction how this is done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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9:06 p.m.
Or contact your AMPR coordinator who can make the DNS changes for you.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 09/22/2020 12:43 PM, G1FEF via 44Net wrote:
Hi Mark,
Contact me off list for information.
73
Chris - G1FEF
On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Good evening,
it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in the ampr.org DNS
zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to have gone. Could someone please
point me into the right direction how this is done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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24 Sep
24 Sep
9:37 p.m.
Has something changed? I was told 5 years ago when I was allocated my
44-net /24 that we *can't* have rDNS on them?
Though it's something of a moot point now that it's all becoming unusable
anyway with rPKI coming in and the whole /8 is being unrouted from the
internet :( That was a bit of a surprise at the start of the month when
things started going unreachable - Have had to beg more normal IP's from
work and start moving all the ham radio projects I host (dstar, aprs, etc
here in .au) to 'real' IP space :/ What are others doing to handle the
loss of routability of 44-net space? Is there any plan to sort out rPKI
for 44-net at some point? I imagine it'd be a crazy job to try and do
though..
Cheers,
DG
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Or contact your AMPR coordinator who can make the DNS changes for you.
--David
KI6ZHD
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73
Chris - G1FEF
> On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
> it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in the
ampr.org DNS zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to have
gone. Could someone please point me into the right direction how this is
done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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26 Sep
26 Sep
12:43 p.m.
On 24 Sep 2020, at 21:37, Damien Gardner via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Has something changed? I was told 5 years ago when I was allocated my
44-net /24 that we *can't* have rDNS on them?
If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing delegation of
reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you want to arrange this.
Though it's something of a moot point now that
it's all becoming unusable
anyway with rPKI coming in and the whole /8 is being unrouted from the
internet :( That was a bit of a surprise at the start of the month when
things started going unreachable - Have had to beg more normal IP's from
work and start moving all the ham radio projects I host (dstar, aprs, etc
here in .au) to 'real' IP space :/ What are others doing to handle the
loss of routability of 44-net space? Is there any plan to sort out rPKI
for 44-net at some point? I imagine it'd be a crazy job to try and do
though..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over BGP is reaching
far and wide last time I checked.
Cheers,
Chris
Cheers,
DG
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wrote:
Or contact your AMPR coordinator who can make the DNS changes for you.
--David
KI6ZHD
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73
Chris - G1FEF
> On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
> it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in the
ampr.org DNS zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to have
gone. Could someone please point me into the right direction how this is
done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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1 p.m.
I'm not having any issues neither with my /24, nor do any of the others in Belgium
from what I've heard.
I know of several that have their /24 routed via vultr and others and haven't heard of
any issues as of yet..
73
Ruben ON3RVH
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Subject: Re: [44net] ampr.org DNS and rDNS entries
On 24 Sep 2020, at 21:37, Damien Gardner via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Has something changed? I was told 5 years ago when I was allocated my
44-net /24 that we *can't* have rDNS on them?
If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing delegation of
reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you want to arrange this.
Though it's something of a moot point now that
it's all becoming
unusable anyway with rPKI coming in and the whole /8 is being unrouted
from the internet :( That was a bit of a surprise at the start of the
month when things started going unreachable - Have had to beg more
normal IP's from work and start moving all the ham radio projects I
host (dstar, aprs, etc here in .au) to 'real' IP space :/ What are
others doing to handle the loss of routability of 44-net space? Is
there any plan to sort out rPKI for 44-net at some point? I imagine
it'd be a crazy job to try and do though..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over BGP is reaching
far and wide last time I checked.
Cheers,
Chris
Cheers,
DG
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https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net Hi Mark,
Contact me off list for information.
73
Chris - G1FEF
> On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
> it's been a while since I had to add/change/delete DNS entries in
> the
ampr.org DNS zone. The email robot I've used in the past seems to
have gone. Could someone please point me into the right direction how
this is done nowadays?
vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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1:14 p.m.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 9:44 pm, G1FEF via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
wrote:
If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing
delegation of reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you
want to arrange this.
oooh, that would be very cool! Although maybe not a lot of point..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over
BGP is reaching far and wide last time I checked.
Hmm I’m told it’s world wide. All peering exchanges and transit carriers
(at least in the APNIC controlled section of the world.) have started
enforcing rPKI route signing at the registries at the start of September,
though some are doing a soft start with warning emails sent weekly rather
than just hard blocking invalid prefixes.
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
1:18 p.m.
Hi,
44-net space is not RPKI invalid, since there is no 44net RPKI.
So unless your upstreams require RPKI valid rather than the more normal
only drop RPKI invalids, this shouldn't be an issue.
Thanks,
Q
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 13:16, Damien Gardner via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 9:44 pm, G1FEF via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
wrote:
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If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing
delegation of reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you
want to arrange this.
oooh, that would be very cool! Although maybe not a lot of point..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over
BGP is reaching far and wide last time I checked.
Hmm I’m told it’s world wide. All peering exchanges and transit carriers
(at least in the APNIC controlled section of the world.) have started
enforcing rPKI route signing at the registries at the start of September,
though some are doing a soft start with warning emails sent weekly rather
than just hard blocking invalid prefixes.
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
1:21 p.m.
Damien.. I don’t think your prefix will be INVALID as there won’t be another signed VALID
object, so will likely be UNKOWN which should continue to be accepted. At lest that’s my
understanding.
On 26 Sep 2020, at 13:14, Damien Gardner via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 9:44 pm, G1FEF via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
wrote:
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If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing
delegation of reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you
want to arrange this.
oooh, that would be very cool! Although maybe not a lot of point..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over
BGP is reaching far and wide last time I checked.
Hmm I’m told it’s world wide. All peering exchanges and transit carriers
(at least in the APNIC controlled section of the world.) have started
enforcing rPKI route signing at the registries at the start of September,
though some are doing a soft start with warning emails sent weekly rather
than just hard blocking invalid prefixes.
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
1:27 p.m.
I'm a bit confused. There are several major providers blocking RPKI invalids but not
unknowns, and your 44 routes will have the "unknown" state. Do you have any
reference to the exact wording that your providers are using?
Zhaofeng / AJ6IA
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Damien Gardner via 44Net wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 9:44 pm, G1FEF via 44Net
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wrote:
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If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated then we are now allowing
delegation of reverse DNS to your own servers. Contact me off list if you
want to arrange this.
oooh, that would be very cool! Although maybe not a lot of point..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over
BGP is reaching far and wide last time I checked.
Hmm I’m told it’s world wide. All peering exchanges and transit carriers
(at least in the APNIC controlled section of the world.) have started
enforcing rPKI route signing at the registries at the start of September,
though some are doing a soft start with warning emails sent weekly rather
than just hard blocking invalid prefixes.
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
27 Sep
27 Sep
2:54 a.m.
Thanks everyone,
From all the replies I got here, I got in touch with
all our upstreams and
peering providers before I headed to bed last night, and
basically they all
came back with the same response - ‘Blocking unknowns would be madness,
less than 25% of routes are currently signed, we are NOT going to do
that!’. So I will be having a ‘talk’ with our NOC when I get back to work
on Tuesday, and find out why exactly my /24 isn’t being propogated to all
the places it’s not making it right now. Someone would appear to have
messed something up, and is giving the wrong explanation for it!
73’s
Damien / VK2TDG
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 10:29 pm, Zhaofeng Li via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
I'm a bit confused. There are several major
providers blocking RPKI
invalids but not unknowns, and your 44 routes will have the "unknown"
state. Do you have any reference to the exact wording that your providers
are using?
Zhaofeng / AJ6IA
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 9:44 pm, G1FEF via 44Net
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wrote:
> If you have a BGP announced subnet allocated
then we are now allowing
> delegation of reverse DNS to your own
servers. Contact me off list if
you
> want to arrange this.
> > oooh, that would be very cool! Although
maybe not a lot of point..
> Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The
subnet I have announced
over
> BGP is reaching far and wide last time I
checked.
> Hmm I’m told it’s world wide. All peering
exchanges and transit carriers
(at least in the APNIC controlled section of the
world.) have started
enforcing rPKI route signing at the registries at
the start of September,
though some are doing a soft start with warning
emails sent weekly rather
than just hard blocking invalid prefixes.
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering
exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers
here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the
‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
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26 Sep
11:28 p.m.
On 26/9/20 10:14 pm, Damien Gardner via 44Net wrote:
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering exchange
in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
I'm in .au (/24 is hosted in Melbourne), and everything is still working
here. My NSP hasn't advised me of any routing issues, present or future.
If you can connect to IRLP reflector 955x, Echolink conferences
*VK3JED*. *AUSSIE*, *ALARA* or *HAM*, or D-STAR REF023, then my /24 is
being routed correctly. :)
--
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
27 Sep
27 Sep
1:33 a.m.
Try doing a reverse on 44.136.33.1
I’ve been doing this for my two /23 and a /24 in .AU
-k9dc
On Sep 26, 2020, at 18:20, Tony Langdon via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
On 26/9/20 10:14 pm, Damien Gardner via 44Net wrote:
My /24 is no longer accepted on any peering
exchange in .au, and only
accepted at one of our four transit carriers here. I’m told that on 1st
October that carrier will cease accepting the ‘invalid’ prefix, and then
44-net will be no more? :(
I'm in .au (/24 is hosted in Melbourne), and everything is still working
here. My NSP hasn't advised me of any routing issues, present or future.
If you can connect to IRLP reflector 955x, Echolink conferences
*VK3JED*. *AUSSIE*, *ALARA* or *HAM*, or D-STAR REF023, then my /24 is
being routed correctly. :)
--
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http://vkradio.com
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26 Sep
11:16 p.m.
On 26/9/20 9:43 pm, G1FEF via 44Net wrote:
You might hear from me at some
stage on this, will have to do a little
planning and setting up first.
So is mine. I'd have a lot of hams contacting me if it became
unrouteable, given what it hosts (a major IRLP reflector, several
Echolink conferences and a bunch of Echolink proxies, to name a few).
--
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
On 24 Sep
2020, at 21:37, Damien Gardner via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Has something changed? I was told 5 years ago when I was allocated my
44-net /24 that we *can't* have rDNS on them?
If you have a BGP announced
subnet allocated then we are now allowing delegation of reverse DNS to your own servers.
Contact me off list if you want to arrange this. Though it's something of a moot point now
that it's all becoming unusable
anyway with rPKI coming in and the whole /8 is being unrouted from the
internet :( That was a bit of a surprise at the start of the month when
things started going unreachable - Have had to beg more normal IP's from
work and start moving all the ham radio projects I host (dstar, aprs, etc
here in .au) to 'real' IP space :/ What are others doing to handle the
loss of routability of 44-net space? Is there any plan to sort out rPKI
for 44-net at some point? I imagine it'd be a crazy job to try and do
though..
Perhaps this is specific to your subnet? The subnet I have announced over
BGP is reaching far and wide last time I checked. 
10:14 p.m.
I haven’t noticed a loss of connectivity or reachability with my assigned
/24. This past week I was running my 44/net hosts a good bit, with package
and OS software updates.
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 6:33 AM Damien Gardner via 44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Has something changed? I was told 5 years ago when I
was allocated my
44-net /24 that we *can't* have rDNS on them?
Though it's something of a moot point now that it's all becoming unusable
anyway with rPKI coming in and the whole /8 is being unrouted from the
internet :( That was a bit of a surprise at the start of the month when
things started going unreachable - Have had to beg more normal IP's from
work and start moving all the ham radio projects I host (dstar, aprs, etc
here in .au) to 'real' IP space :/ What are others doing to handle the
loss of routability of 44-net space? Is there any plan to sort out rPKI
for 44-net at some point? I imagine it'd be a crazy job to try and do
though..
Cheers,
DG
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Or contact your AMPR coordinator who can make the
DNS changes for you.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 09/22/2020 12:43 PM, G1FEF via 44Net wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> > Contact me off list for information.
> > 73
> Chris - G1FEF
> >> On 22 Sep 2020, at 20:10, Marc, LX1DUC
via 44Net <
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>>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> it's been a while since I had to
add/change/delete DNS entries in the
ampr.org DNS zone. The email robot I've used
in the past seems to have
gone. Could someone please point me into the
right direction how this is
done nowadays?
>>
>> vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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