22 Mar
2014
22 Mar
'14
6:29 p.m.
On 3/22/14, 6:10 PM, Neil Johnson wrote:
- Be sure read up on BCP38
http://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp38 to
understand why your local ISP won't (and shouldn't) let you source
traffic from IP addresses other than theirs
It's called peering. I'm not
expecting the end users who don't understand
with a /29 to get on with it.
- Explain how you would justify and obtain stable
funding to get (and
keep) an ASN for the 44-net address space ($500 initial, $100/yr
maintenance from ARIN). An ASN is necessary for multi-homing and BGP
routing.
I've stated I'd donate an ASN to AMPR. Money where my mouth is,
etc. AFAIK
AMPR is not 501c3 with the IRS, so this is going to hold donations back.
- Explain to me what financial incentive a commercial
ISP has to
routing (or peering with) 44-net address space for a small number of
customers.
It's cool, lots of groups would peer with AMPRnet. We'd have to
get people to
run gateways in different places around the world. Might need to start
talking to a few more people at NANOG/xNOG's but it's like finding a good
repeater site, you have to pound the pavement and talk to people. Law of
averages we'd find a half dozen companies that would do it.
The legitimacy of a 501c3 status would go a long way to help this.
- As for using VPN's, explain how to pay for and maintain the
appropriate size server(s) to host CPU-intensive VPN (IPSec and GRE)
end-points.
Don't know why we'd need IPSEC on the backbone, GRE would be
fine. GRE is a
hardware operation in most routers (I can only speak to ALU 7x50), but really
we're not pushing 100mbit/s, so it's a moot point. A linux/bsd box can do it.
After understanding all the nuances of 44-net, I find
that the mesh
of IP-IP tunnels and the rip44d daemon are actually quite an elegant
solution to the limitations and constraints we have to work with.
It's a dirty
hack IMO. There is no reason we can't build a virtual backbone
that would provide 44net space to end users and give the users redundant (or
better!) routes to the internet.
73's
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Bryan Fields
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727-214-2508 - Fax
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22 Mar
22 Mar
10:43 p.m.
New subject: 44net problems - was: 44net cool toys
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Bryan Fields wrote:
The legitimacy of a 501c3 status would go a long way
to help this.
We applied for 501c3 status a year ago. The IRS is over a year behind
on processing these applications; ours hasn't come up for review yet.
We hope to hear from them in the next six months or so.
(For those many of you outside the USA, 501c3 status is a recognition
by the US government of non-profit educational/research status that
exempts the organization from payment of income tax on donations and
allows the giver to deduct some portion of their contribution from
their own personal income taxes.)
So far donations have been few and far between; we're still over a
thousand dollars in debt. I do thank those who have been generous.
- Brian
23 Mar
23 Mar
1:41 a.m.
New subject: 44net problems - was: 44net cool toys
Brian ,
What is the PayPal address at which you get donations?
73 from Dan at K7MM
On Mar 22, 2014, at 19:43, Brian Kantor
<Brian(a)UCSD.Edu> wrote:
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On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Bryan
Fields wrote:
The legitimacy of a 501c3 status would go a long way to help this.
We applied for 501c3 status a year ago. The IRS is over a year behind
on processing these applications; ours hasn't come up for review yet.
We hope to hear from them in the next six months or so.
(For those many of you outside the USA, 501c3 status is a recognition
by the US government of non-profit educational/research status that
exempts the organization from payment of income tax on donations and
allows the giver to deduct some portion of their contribution from
their own personal income taxes.)
So far donations have been few and far between; we're still over a
thousand dollars in debt. I do thank those who have been generous.
- Brian
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10:05 a.m.
New subject: 44net problems - was: 44net cool toys
Dan, is this what you are looking for ? http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
73 ~ Ken
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Dan Ransom, PE <danra995(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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Brian ,
What is the PayPal address at which you get donations?
73 from Dan at K7MM
On Mar 22, 2014, at 19:43, Brian Kantor
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On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Bryan
Fields wrote:
The legitimacy of a 501c3 status would go a long way to help this.
We applied for 501c3 status a year ago. The IRS is over a year behind
on processing these applications; ours hasn't come up for review yet.
We hope to hear from them in the next six months or so.
(For those many of you outside the USA, 501c3 status is a recognition
by the US government of non-profit educational/research status that
exempts the organization from payment of income tax on donations and
allows the giver to deduct some portion of their contribution from
their own personal income taxes.)
So far donations have been few and far between; we're still over a
thousand dollars in debt. I do thank those who have been generous.
- Brian
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