Lastly, Nobody's referring to an ISP. I'm confused why you tried to confuse and distract this by mentioning pure nonsense.None of us have ARDC as an ISP to my knowledge and they offer no such services.The next time you or someone else simply won't addresses my point or refer me to someone who answers, I'll report you for violation of Code of Conduct . -------- Original message --------From: lleachii(a)aol.com Date: 6/13/24 10:31 (GMT-05:00) To: pete M via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; Subject: RE: [44net] Re: Update re: subdomains There is no such thing. Maybe you misunderstand what I'm referring to. We are responsible for our own stations during an emergency in the US (hence why ARDC shouldn't mess with MY settings since I may be disconnected from them when discovering it). I assumed this was international at any given moment. If you have no clue or understanding, you should remain silent in that case. It's easier to be quiet and learn tan to be loud and wrong.-------- Original message --------From: pete M via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; Date: 6/13/24 09:53 (GMT-05:00) To: Amprnet 44 Net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; Subject: [44net] Re: Update re: subdomains Since when is it OK to use 44net for any other use than ham experimentation on that IP address space?If you use a network for experimentation as a primary link for emergency you miss understood the use of the 44net.Yes it is appealing to do so. But be aware that this network can and will change over the time. Some stuff will break. Some will cease to exist. And new stuff will appear.ARDC is not a ISP nor a commercial entity that provide professional services for commercial grade networking. If the network infrastructure you use is primary for life safety, better go the commercial route. If you are a BACKUP in case everything else is gone. That is not the same thing, and the authority dealing with ham should better know about it.This is my opinion of the situation and note ARDC view. I am not talking for them.PierreVE2PF________________________________________De : Chris via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.xn--org&gt;envoy-meb : 13 juin 2024 06:47À : lleachii(a)aol.comCc : Amprnet 44 NetObjet : [44net] Re: Update re: subdomainsHello Lynwood,For the record, I have never made any derogatory remarks to you publicly or in private, you completely misconstrued an offer of help I made for reasons I still do not understand. If you wish to discuss this then I am more than happy to, as I would like to clear up any misunderstandings. Please feel free to contact me off-list as this is not the appropriate place for such discussions.With regards to the rest of your email, I refer you to Rosy’s email to this list which explains the current situation. I am sure she would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have.Kind Regards,Chris - G1FEF—ARDC AdministratorWeb: https://www.ardc.net/On 13 Jun 2024, at 11:10, lleachii--- via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:Chris,I have logged in and understand that the portal system says "with user".What I do not understand is this -  *   Is there a policy in place?  *   Will you then proceed to delete these "non callsign" entries once one it is implemented?You all may not have noticed, but I'm being very particular NOT to agree to new DNS terms, IP record changes, etc. (i.e. stuff that preexisted your control of this domain and space). Before I post the text (since it's quite similar to what I read posted by an ARDC employee), I will not quote it at this time. Please offer clarity (publicly, because you have said some derogatory things to me before in private which you seem uncourageous to say publicly - so I'm uncomfortable) before I proceed.I also need ARDC to understand that there will be concerns if you then proceed to delete entries I've made very clear I wish to continue use of (as well as my GOVERNMENTAL RACES SPONSOR). I've explained the nature of your inheritance, but somehow - I need to clarify this seemingly contrary policy before I agree.Please note, my records also show and indicate this "policy" is not because of the numerous amount of DNS records - I will not discuss this further here. Anyone seeing the updates on portal ticket clearing statistics can see that. And if your answer is YES to the latter question above - common sense also provides that you can just as well identify and handle them, as you would need to do so to accomplish that task. Yet, a hassle for records I'm in fact attempting to claim (over and over - obviously I'm making records that I'm clamming them)?Since I pray common scene now prevails - I simply ask you not hold my records "hostage" in this commercialization game.Thanks and 73,LynwoodKB3VWG(reviewed by a Sensitivity Expert, please be courageous and secretly report the entire text as a Code of Conduct violation if you desire, including this disclaimer to show your ignorance - yes this portion was reviewed as well)On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 03:17:04 PM EDT, Chris via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:Lynwood,Please check your tickets, I replied 2 day ago, just waiting on your reply.73,Chris - G1FEFOn 12 Jun 2024, at 18:43, lleachii--- via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:I have not been allowed to make those edits.On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 01:36:45 PM EDT, Steve L via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:In my opinion for the purposes of tracking ownership, nonstandard subdomains should only exist via a cname record.Example of Lynwood (doing it correctly in my opinion)speedtest.ampr.org<http://speedtest.ampr.org/>g/>.     300     IN      CNAME   kb3vwg-010.ampr.org<http://kb3vwg-010.ampr.org/>.kb3vwg-010.ampr.org&…mpr.org/>.    300     IN      A       44.60.44.10In theory speedtest.ampr.org<http://speedtest.ampr.org/> could have a direct A record.. such asspeedtest.ampr.org<http://speedtest.ampr.org/>g/>.    300     IN      A       44.60.44.10But that is problematic.Just my 2 cents.On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 12:11 PM Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:Dear 44Net community,It’s been just over two months since we launched the new Portal. It camewith, as you have seen, some major bumps. Today, ARDC is resolving, atleast temporarily, one of those hurdles: administrative access tosubdomains.As of today, anyone who had a subdomain with ampr.org<http://ampr.org/> before the launchof the new Portal on April 3, 2024, will, for now, have full access totheir DNS records. This includes subdomains that fall outside of ourpreferred format of callsign.ampr.org<http://callsign.ampr.org/>.This administrative access still depends on call sign verification,which requires confirming given name, family name, email, and validamateur radio license. This step helps us ensure that the network isbeing used by valid amateur radio operators. During our recent work,we’ve found several bad actors, which is both unfair to the communityand a security risk.We’ve also made a functional change to the portal: once a call sign isverified, you are now automatically able to create a subdomain with theformat of callsign.ampr.org<http://callsign.ampr.org/>g/>. All other new requests for subdomains thatfall outside of that format (e.g., foo.ampr.org<http://foo.ampr.org/>g/>, which I’ll refer to asnonstandard subdomains for brevity) will require review and approval.Please note that we will be limiting the number of nonstandardsubdomains going forward. Thus, if you have one (or, in some cases, manymore), please consider it temporary. You can currently create as manysecond-level subdomains as you want—e.g., foo.callsign.ampr.org<http://foo.callsign.ampr.org/>,bar.callsign.amp…mpr.org/>, etc.We are working on a more official policy around subdomains usingampr.org<http://ampr.org/>g/>. As promised at the recent regional coordinators' meeting, wewill ensure you can see this policy before officially implementing it.We will also provide a transition period, likely many months, for usersto edit their entries before official deprecation. This is, ultimately,what we should have done initially, and we take responsibility for notfollowing a better process and, instead, rolling out this change withouttaking proper preparatory steps.Some of you may be wondering why we are making this change in the firstplace. It is because, without doing so, we end up in our current andvery unwieldy situation: a database of over 51,000 DNS entries, mostwithout knowledge of who they belong to, accumulated over at least adecade, with very few entries currently in use. If we aim to increasethe usage of 44Net, then we need a system where we understand ownershipand are able to provide an efficient service where we can addressproblems as they arise.For now, we hope that this helps to unblock anyone that currently feelsblocked, while also providing an ample notice for changes that arecoming down the pipeline at a later, though likely not-so-distant date.If you have questions, please ask.Many thanks,Rosy--Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYVExecutive DirectorAmateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)ardc.net<http://ardc.net/>______________________________________… mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>_______________________________________________44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>_______________________________________________44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org_______________________________________________44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>_______________________________________________44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org_______________________________________________44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org