Do you have any way to check connectivity and routing problem without doing at least ping and trace route ? I dont know ... Whats the point to put the encap file if you cant use it ?
What you have just found out is that a network by itself may be fun to construct but is not very useful on its own. That has always been a weak spot of tunneling amprnet over internet: why would you want to do that, when you can just use internet.
When you want to actually use amprnet you need some way to find public services that are of interest. Then you can try to connect those, and assume that the operators have no problem with visitors. That is something different than pinging or tracerouting everything in sight.
For example, enter in Google: site:ampr.org hamradio Or some other keywords after that text "site:ampr.org" (without the quotes)
That way you will find websites on ampr.org (as far as they are connected to real internet), and you may find interesting pages that tell you about other things available on amprnet.
Rob
When you want to actually use amprnet you need some way to find public services that are of interest.
Even APRS would be useful for folks that have 44net services to share. (Re-inventing bonjour/ZeroConf....) Perhaps this is a good reason to revive the HTPP convsers server (IRC clone) and use it for announcements like the DStar folks do with IRC technology.
The 'community' is still what makes 44net special.
Bill, WA7NWP
Perhaps this is a good reason to revive the HTPP convsers server (IRC clone) and use it for announcements like the DStar folks do with IRC technology.
The convers network is still alive, anyone is welcome to connect:
convers.g1fef.co.uk:3600
Chris
Same here:
linux.sp2l.ampr.org:3600
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Dear Rob I tend to agree with what you say and this lead me to the thinking of maybe we have to find a better way something like what NEt/Rom node do or as the HSMM MESH network learn about the neighboring partners (if a real OSPF Or RIP or even BGP could be used) to connect between our networks Unfortunately i can not suggest better solutions as im not a network guru Looks like ill have to leave with how it work until better method will be used Regards Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Rob Janssen pe1chl@amsat.org Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 3:25 PM To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] Is there raceroutre machine on 44 net available for public ?
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That has always been a weak spot of tunneling amprnet over internet: why would you want to do that, when you can just use internet.
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