19 Mar
2014
19 Mar
'14
12:03 p.m.
What needs to change? Why isn't there Ubiquiti all
over them mountain
ranges?
If we could change the demographics of the hobby that would help. But
to attract some younger tech minded folks is a chicken and egg type of
thing. You have to have something first to entice them.
The second problem is regulatory. Data bandwidth issues, content
issues.. all deturants.
How many people even know about the 44net space? Maybe we need to reach out to;
-The broadband-hamnet developers - presently they use 10.X.X.X address space
-VOIP developers, like IRLP, Echolink, and Allstar.
-Hams who run internet servers, like qsl.net, etc
It would probably help to have our own custom firmware or recommended
hardware. I have to admit, I have been doing everything on a
raspberry pi with a usb ethernet dongle for the second port. I
haven't tried to install the custom rip daemon on something like a
WRT54G or ??
Then there is the issue of how to integrate 44net into your home network.
19 Mar
19 Mar
12:21 p.m.
New subject: 44net cool toys - not
The moment you start building a high speed network which is ham-only, you
don't need ripd and stuff anymore, except on edge routers.
Insisde that network, all addresses can be 44s, and no tunneling is needed.
And inside one can do a lot of that fancy BGP/OSPF stuff.
(HAMNET in DE and AT is a good example)
Access for hams can be via a simple second network card dedicated to
44.0.0.0/8 WiFi access, so no content issue arrises.
And VPNs can offer a good isolation method on dual stacked networks.
As an example, my home network is done using private IPs (192.168.x.x), with
the usual public IP gateway.
My desktop machine connects via VPN to my local router providing a 44
address for that specific machine (and forwarding the 44 traffic to my 44net
gateway).
Usual traffic goes via local IPs, ham traffic (44.0.0.0/8) via VPN to the
gateway. All other users in my home are on private IPs only with no access
to 44net.
Only traffic from my 44 address to 44 addresses go via VPN, the rest is
regulary routed and NATed.
Marius, YO2LOJ
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It would probably help to have our own custom firmware or recommended
hardware. I have to admit, I have been doing everything on a
raspberry pi with a usb ethernet dongle for the second port. I
haven't tried to install the custom rip daemon on something like a
WRT54G or ??
Then there is the issue of how to integrate 44net into your home network.
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12:26 p.m.
New subject: 44net cool toys - not
The thing that needs to change is that Dynamic AXIP links should be
automatically set up by software between all on those on the encap list.
That would get the traffic flowing. No more would I have to add and delete
links as partners change.
Is it possible? Does it exist? Imagine the nodes lists!
Cheers
Rob
VK1KW
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kb9mwr(a)gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:03 PM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [44net] 44net cool toys - not
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_______________________________________________
What needs to change? Why isn't there Ubiquiti all
over them mountain
ranges?
If we could change the demographics of the hobby that would help. But to
attract some younger tech minded folks is a chicken and egg type of thing.
You have to have something first to entice them.
The second problem is regulatory. Data bandwidth issues, content issues..
all deturants.
How many people even know about the 44net space? Maybe we need to reach out
to;
-The broadband-hamnet developers - presently they use 10.X.X.X address space
-VOIP developers, like IRLP, Echolink, and Allstar.
-Hams who run internet servers, like qsl.net, etc
It would probably help to have our own custom firmware or recommended
hardware. I have to admit, I have been doing everything on a raspberry pi
with a usb ethernet dongle for the second port. I haven't tried to install
the custom rip daemon on something like a WRT54G or ??
Then there is the issue of how to integrate 44net into your home network.
_________________________________________
44Net mailing list
44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
12:47 p.m.
New subject: 44net cool toys - not
This is exactly what the RIPv2 approach does.
The moment you change your tunnel endpoint's IP in the portal, the RIPv2
messages will be updated and ALL other partners using RIP will be updated
automatically.
The only thing which is missing is an automated approach on the gateway
update.
Maybe this is a place to do some work on. Something like a dyndns update
approach.
Challenge/response authentication and automatic gateway update on the portal
so that it could be done on a router...
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: 44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of vk1kw
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 07:26
To: 'AMPRNet working group'
Subject: Re: [44net] 44net cool toys - not
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
The thing that needs to change is that Dynamic AXIP links should be
automatically set up by software between all on those on the encap list.
That would get the traffic flowing. No more would I have to add and delete
links as partners change.
Is it possible? Does it exist? Imagine the nodes lists!
Cheers
Rob
VK1KW
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