First, Lynwood thanks for sharing PHP code snippet. Does anyone know much about google maps? More than 15 years ago a younger local ham friend of mine wrote some web based interactive tools for wireless link planning. Maybe you have run into them: http://n9zia.ampr.org/ This isn't presently on 44-net. I have just been using the ampr dns to give it a hostname that has been pointing to my home cable modem for a long time now. They run horribly slow (same computer for 15 years and slow upload speed) I'd love to see these tools freshened up a bit to use PHP, and possibly integrate google maps. Neither the original author, Joe N9ZIA or myself really have a lot of experience with either. But we are both surprised someone hasn't already done this. Just throwing the idea out there for anyone who would like a project, the code is open under GPL. The tools help promote modern RF network planning. After a rewrite perhaps they could be hosted on a 44 IP, and put a paypal please donate nag screen if you come in from a commercial IP. The paypal proceeds can go to helping ARDC with Brian's ok. Steve, KB9MWR