Dear rob I relay don't know why you are so objecting a gateway with CISCO I used to work a lot with Cisco when i have worked at the System team of Israel largest ISP . The Cisco are one of the most reliable equipment i ever seen you plug it for the electricity and it works for years without getting stacked I used to do gateways with Jnos/Dos that time and every time the Pc Or got stacked (after all it was a Dos) or the Power supply got burned (it wasnt sitting in a servers farm with air condition) or the motherboard itself got burned or the Hard disk stopped working such a thing would not happen to CISCO Indeed it is much more complicated these days that UCSD dont do anymore 44 net forwarding and a routing line needed for every gateway .. and what make it more complicated is that the gateways these days are on a dynamic ip so the encap file changes every time .... BUT ... I get a very reliable solution with Zero money (my Cisco 1005 was taken from the trash cost me nothing) and im fed up (as being the only person in my country that take care of the 44.138 network for about 20 years)from running from site to site just to make Reset or to replace a power supply or Hard disk i want a robust reliable solution with low cost However im willing to listen to your advice and test the Rasberry Pi If there is someone here that can direct me step by step until a working system and then i may consider testing it and if that will work no less good then a Cisco im willing to take down the Cisco .... but until that will happen at least i will know that with the CIsco i can sleep well and the system will work Im not familiar with what have been told about the multi tunnel that a Cisco can not do ... (actually im not understand what the problem or the limitation is ) I know that at least two gateways are running and operating currently with CIsco (if you will telnet their commercial Ip you will get the famous Cisco login) so if they work i assume that this can be done Best regards Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org ________________________________________ From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Rob Janssen <pe1chl(a)amsat.org> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 12:42 PM To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] route lines from encap file for CISCO Router (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ A Cisco cannot use route lines to operate a multipoint IPIP encap interface like Linux can (and JNOS). Marius has already explained that yesterday. I know it may be a disappointment to you, but your Cisco router really is not a good choice for use as an IPIP amprnet gateway. A Raspberry Pi will be much easier to get going, especially when you are not a software guy. And it will perform better in the real world where some people are on dynamic addresses, because the nice ampr-ripd software that Marius has written will automatically maintain the routes immediately when they are changing, instead of the oldfashioned method of downloading an encap file. (directions can be found how to do this on www.ampr.org, that you just need to copy and modify the IP addresses) Rob _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net