Ok, so I am a licensed HAM, an amateur that has no formal education or job experience regarding networking. However, I believe I have a better handle on IT than most hams in general, present company excluded. (Anything I can do to help)
I am assisting the Penn State Amateur Radio Club, a student organization, to get a couple of 1Gb network backbone connections lit up. One is dedicated to a D-star gateway (K3CR). The other location is the ham shack, for web browsing and other future uses, such as APRS Igate, IRLP or Asterisk.
We will have a /29 assigned by the University. The two Microtik routers we have purchased are capable of BGP. The university will not advertise 44net, or allow me to announce BGP. sigh.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Another regional resource we have in the state of Pennsylvania is PennREN. It is a partnership that built out fiber optics in a figure-eight footprint all around the state. They can provide connectivity (I would like to get a VPN server co-located in their facilities), but they also have dark fiber available.
My long-term vision is to have a 501c(3) organized by hams light up a couple of those strands to create a regional 44net. Local hams/clubs would each have to provide their own 'last mile'
I believe there is a group in Pittsburgh already doing something similar.
I want to learn enough to understand the conversation. Thanks for the video!
Jim Alles, KB3TBX
Has the university given reason as to why they will not advertize 44net or allow you to announce your subnet via BGP. This could be as simple as a basic misunderstanding as to their authority to do so or it could be any number of other factors such as not wanting to maintain such a connection or any headaces they percieve it could generate. Sometimes dialoguing as to the reasons why matters and can make a difference. Think for a minute about the advantage their doing the announcement (or allowing you to) brings to the school.
Basicly to do this yourself you'll need a 44/24 subnet, your own asn, and connectivity to other providers or hopefully a peering exchange. Getting setup with PENNRen might be a good option, especially if they will announce your subnet for you, and even better if they have fiber into your school.
Eric AF6EP
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jim Alles kb3tbx@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ok, so I am a licensed HAM, an amateur that has no formal education or job experience regarding networking. However, I believe I have a better handle on IT than most hams in general, present company excluded. (Anything I can do to help)
I am assisting the Penn State Amateur Radio Club, a student organization, to get a couple of 1Gb network backbone connections lit up. One is dedicated to a D-star gateway (K3CR). The other location is the ham shack, for web browsing and other future uses, such as APRS Igate, IRLP or Asterisk.
We will have a /29 assigned by the University. The two Microtik routers we have purchased are capable of BGP. The university will not advertise 44net, or allow me to announce BGP. sigh.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Another regional resource we have in the state of Pennsylvania is PennREN. It is a partnership that built out fiber optics in a figure-eight footprint all around the state. They can provide connectivity (I would like to get a VPN server co-located in their facilities), but they also have dark fiber available.
My long-term vision is to have a 501c(3) organized by hams light up a couple of those strands to create a regional 44net. Local hams/clubs would each have to provide their own 'last mile'
I believe there is a group in Pittsburgh already doing something similar.
I want to learn enough to understand the conversation. Thanks for the video!
Jim Alles, KB3TBX
I think the University can advertise through their ASN -- but you do need a delegation from ARDC and having a conversation with your head of network operations wouldn't hurt. Since its amateur radio you could put your D-STAR and APRS gateways on it.
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Eric Fort eric.fort@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Has the university given reason as to why they will not advertize 44net or allow you to announce your subnet via BGP. This could be as simple as a basic misunderstanding as to their authority to do so or it could be any number of other factors such as not wanting to maintain such a connection or any headaces they percieve it could generate. Sometimes dialoguing as to the reasons why matters and can make a difference. Think for a minute about the advantage their doing the announcement (or allowing you to) brings to the school.
Basicly to do this yourself you'll need a 44/24 subnet, your own asn, and connectivity to other providers or hopefully a peering exchange. Getting setup with PENNRen might be a good option, especially if they will announce your subnet for you, and even better if they have fiber into your school.
Eric AF6EP
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jim Alles kb3tbx@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ok, so I am a licensed HAM, an amateur that has no formal education or
job
experience regarding networking. However, I believe I have a better
handle
on IT than most hams in general, present company excluded. (Anything I
can
do to help)
I am assisting the Penn State Amateur Radio Club, a student organization, to get a couple of 1Gb network backbone connections lit up. One is dedicated to a D-star gateway (K3CR). The other location is the ham
shack,
for web browsing and other future uses, such as APRS Igate, IRLP or Asterisk.
We will have a /29 assigned by the University. The two Microtik routers
we
have purchased are capable of BGP. The university will not advertise
44net,
or allow me to announce BGP. sigh.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Another regional resource we have in the state of Pennsylvania is
PennREN.
It is a partnership that built out fiber optics in a figure-eight
footprint
all around the state. They can provide connectivity (I would like to get
a
VPN server co-located in their facilities), but they also have dark fiber available.
My long-term vision is to have a 501c(3) organized by hams light up a couple of those strands to create a regional 44net. Local hams/clubs
would
each have to provide their own 'last mile'
I believe there is a group in Pittsburgh already doing something similar.
I want to learn enough to understand the conversation. Thanks for the video!
Jim Alles, KB3TBX
Keep in mind that most University network engineering teams are understaffed, so they tend to shy away from supporting "one-off" configurations that deviate from their campus standard configuration. There is probably no easy way to deliver 44-net traffic from the campus' border routers to your amateur radio station's location without creating a custom path (VLAN or MPLS VPN) through the University's network.
Your best bet is to see if there is a network engineer in the network engineering group that is also a Ham :-).
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 7:35 PM, K7VE - John k7ve@k7ve.org wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ I think the University can advertise through their ASN -- but you do need a delegation from ARDC and having a conversation with your head of network operations wouldn't hurt. Since its amateur radio you could put your D-STAR and APRS gateways on it.
John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Eric Fort eric.fort@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Has the university given reason as to why they will not advertize 44net or allow you to announce your subnet via BGP. This could be as simple as a basic misunderstanding as to their authority to do so or it could be any number of other factors such as not wanting to maintain such a connection or any headaces they percieve it could generate. Sometimes dialoguing as to the reasons why matters and can make a difference. Think for a minute about the advantage their doing the announcement (or allowing you to) brings to the school.
Basicly to do this yourself you'll need a 44/24 subnet, your own asn, and connectivity to other providers or hopefully a peering exchange. Getting setup with PENNRen might be a good option, especially if they will announce your subnet for you, and even better if they have fiber into your school.
Eric AF6EP
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jim Alles kb3tbx@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ok, so I am a licensed HAM, an amateur that has no formal education or
job
experience regarding networking. However, I believe I have a better
handle
on IT than most hams in general, present company excluded. (Anything I
can
do to help)
I am assisting the Penn State Amateur Radio Club, a student organization, to get a couple of 1Gb network backbone connections lit up. One is dedicated to a D-star gateway (K3CR). The other location is the ham
shack,
for web browsing and other future uses, such as APRS Igate, IRLP or Asterisk.
We will have a /29 assigned by the University. The two Microtik routers
we
have purchased are capable of BGP. The university will not advertise
44net,
or allow me to announce BGP. sigh.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Another regional resource we have in the state of Pennsylvania is
PennREN.
It is a partnership that built out fiber optics in a figure-eight
footprint
all around the state. They can provide connectivity (I would like to get
a
VPN server co-located in their facilities), but they also have dark fiber available.
My long-term vision is to have a 501c(3) organized by hams light up a couple of those strands to create a regional 44net. Local hams/clubs
would
each have to provide their own 'last mile'
I believe there is a group in Pittsburgh already doing something similar.
I want to learn enough to understand the conversation. Thanks for the video!
Jim Alles, KB3TBX
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