31 Jul
2013
31 Jul
'13
9:54 p.m.
As many of you know, when we set up the portal and moved the gateways
maintenance to it, we imported the legacy gateways file which included
a significant number of dormant or abandoned gateway entries.
Since then we've requested that people operating gateways "take
possession" of them by registering their active gateways.
I believe the time has come to flush all the gateway entries which have
not been registered -- clearly by now if they're not registered they
must be abandoned.
So I propose that we use the month of August to get the last of the
active gateways registered with the portal, and after the last day of
the month we remove all unregistered gateways from the gateways files.
What will remain are the gateways that are still active and being operated
by somebody. This should make the tunnels routing table a bit smaller.
Comments?
- Brian
31 Jul
31 Jul
10:01 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 18:54 -0700, Brian Kantor spake:
Comments?
Can we insure that we all have access to the regions we're resonsible
for before this occurs? If we cut a gateway by mistake and we don't have
access to all our regional subnets, coordinators may not be able to take
the proper actions to fix it.
--
73 de Brian Rogers - N1URO
email: <n1uro(a)n1uro.ampr.org>
Web: http://www.n1uro.net/
Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/
Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org
Linux Amateur Radio Services
axMail-Fax & URONode
AmprNet coordinator for:
Delaware, all New England,
and New Jersey.
1 Aug
1 Aug
12:19 a.m.
I suggest that you publish a list of whatever you plan to delete. Then give
people a small but reasonable amount of time to review the list. It may
help to avoid any accidental removals of gateways of those of us who are
active.
M
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[mailto:44net-bounces+n6mef=mefox.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Brian
Kantor
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:54 PM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] gateways sunset
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_______________________________________________
As many of you know, when we set up the portal and moved the gateways
maintenance to it, we imported the legacy gateways file which included a
significant number of dormant or abandoned gateway entries.
Since then we've requested that people operating gateways "take possession"
of them by registering their active gateways.
I believe the time has come to flush all the gateway entries which have not
been registered -- clearly by now if they're not registered they must be
abandoned.
So I propose that we use the month of August to get the last of the active
gateways registered with the portal, and after the last day of the month we
remove all unregistered gateways from the gateways files.
What will remain are the gateways that are still active and being operated
by somebody. This should make the tunnels routing table a bit smaller.
Comments?
- Brian
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2:04 a.m.
I'm all for it -- but we need some additional functionality.
1. Ability to edit allocations.
2. Ability to delete allocations
In other words CRUD (Create. Read, Update, and Delete) for Addresses and
DNS. It would also be great if we could delegate DNS updates to subnet
operators.
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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
<http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays>
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
As many of you know, when we set up the portal and moved the gateways
maintenance to it, we imported the legacy gateways file which included
a significant number of dormant or abandoned gateway entries.
Since then we've requested that people operating gateways "take
possession" of them by registering their active gateways.
I believe the time has come to flush all the gateway entries which have
not been registered -- clearly by now if they're not registered they
must be abandoned.
So I propose that we use the month of August to get the last of the
active gateways registered with the portal, and after the last day of
the month we remove all unregistered gateways from the gateways files.
What will remain are the gateways that are still active and being operated
by somebody. This should make the tunnels routing table a bit smaller.
Comments?
- Brian
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44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
5:15 p.m.
Brian et al,
We need to be careful as we already have errors in the current file.
I am the coordinator for NJ but according to the list you are the
coordinator.
Could this be because I have never successfully navigated the portal?
Mark NI2O
On Jul 31, 2013 9:54 PM, "Brian Kantor" <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
As many of you know, when we set up the portal and moved the gateways
maintenance to it, we imported the legacy gateways file which included
a significant number of dormant or abandoned gateway entries.
Since then we've requested that people operating gateways "take
possession" of them by registering their active gateways.
I believe the time has come to flush all the gateway entries which have
not been registered -- clearly by now if they're not registered they
must be abandoned.
So I propose that we use the month of August to get the last of the
active gateways registered with the portal, and after the last day of
the month we remove all unregistered gateways from the gateways files.
What will remain are the gateways that are still active and being operated
by somebody. This should make the tunnels routing table a bit smaller.
Comments?
- Brian
_________________________________________
44Net mailing list
44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
5:28 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 05:15:10PM -0400, Mark Phillips wrote:
We need to be careful as we already have errors in the
current file.
I am the coordinator for NJ but according to the list you are the
coordinator.
Could this be because I have never successfully navigated the portal?
You're in the portal's user list ok.
I know that Chris is a little behind on getting coordinator updates
into the portal, and this is causing confusion. I hope he has time
to work on this soon.
I don't think the gateways list has suffered as a result. If any
gateway operator has attempted to claim his entry but not yet been
able to do so we'll have to defer the cleanup.
There are 254 subnets listed as being gatewayed, but 186 of them
appear to be abandoned, so I'd like to get that sorted.
- Brian
6:52 p.m.
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On 01/08/2013 23:28, Brian Kantor wrote:
I know that Chris is a little behind on getting
coordinator
updates into the portal, and this is causing confusion. I hope he
has time to work on this soon.
I would so much happier if the portal would be fixed sometime, I keep
having issues with the portal.
Allocation requests for LX are notified by email to the lx-ampr (LX
Coordinator account) user, but the requests remain invisible to the
lx-ampr user in the portal.
DNS request for LX area are neither notified nor visible to user lx-ampr.
Eventually Chris wants to release the source code, so we could assist
in completing the portal. If the code would be available on GitHub (as
an example) YLs and OMs could provide patches, which Chris could
choose to integrate or not...
Again, those are just my thoughts.
73 de Marc, LX1DUC
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