This is another drawback : all outgoing traffic (to Internet) has to go through one of our gateways, and can not be forwareded to Internet directly by an endpoint via its local (NATted) ISP.
Yes of course. In our case that is not very important because our gateway is in a datacenter in Amsterdam, where most of the internet traffic passes anyway, and the ping time to typical internet hosts nearby is like 2ms. I have a 5.5ms ping time to our gateway via my VDSL connection, and ~9ms via the radio links. That isn't an issue.
In Germany it should not really be a problem to do it like this, they could have several datacenters across the country too. The trick is of course to find something that is inexpensive enough to pay it out of someone's pocket, as setting up a donation or contribution system is quite difficult, especially in the amateur radio community.
(in Dutch a Ham is called "zendamateur" which is often written as "centamateur" in situations concerning financing community projects. it is funny that many amateurs have no problem paying like 2000-4000 euro for a transceiver, but won't consider paying 20 euro/year to sponsor a community project)
Rob
"it is funny that many amateurs have no problem paying like 2000-4000 euro for a transceiver, but won't consider paying 20 euro/year to sponsor a community project)"
It is not just a germany problem. it is the same almost every where.
Club membreship is going down while ham licence are going up.
I do relate of being one of the "Cheap Ham" But not in the type of not paying cause i want to keep my money. In the sens that I want to build my stuff for less money to have more money for my hobby and help to pay on other people project so that I can have some fun also.
I can buy myself a nice flex 6600 in the next hour if I wish. I prefer to build a radioberry (Raspberry Pi with a hat that act as a sdr transceiver. )
I do have a flex 3000. had it for a long time. still like it..
I gave many donation to multiple project that I never even had a use for.. But I built myself a soldering station microscope out of 26$ PIcamera, a raspberry pi and some parts that I printed on my 3d printer ( home made) ) Not cause I was cheap. I wanted to know how it was all working..
There are 3 type of hams, the rich appliance operator, the cheap appliance operator and the ham that do all he can to save a cent so that he can spend on more stuff. and not being an appliance operator rich or not.
On 20/03/19 04:34, pete M via 44Net wrote:
"it is funny that many amateurs have no problem paying like 2000-4000 euro for a transceiver, but won't consider paying 20 euro/year to sponsor a community project)"
That's pretty common, sadly. I'm normally happy to sponsor community projects, though whether I can consistently keep it up is sometimes debatable. No fancy $4000 transceivers here. My last upgrade in that department was over 8 years ago, when I ran into a bit of money.
It is not just a germany problem. it is the same almost every where.
Club membreship is going down while ham licence are going up.
The local club here has broadened their outlook to get kids interested in electronics and reach out to non amateurs. The club's focus is now amateur radio _and_ electronics. While getting more amateurs on the air is always welcome, there's room in that for non amateurs - and the non amateur coders, constructors, Arduino tinkerers, etc have a lot to offer the amateurs (and vice-versa).
I do relate of being one of the "Cheap Ham" But not in the type of not paying cause i want to keep my money. In the sens that I want to build my stuff for less money to have more money for my hobby and help to pay on other people project so that I can have some fun also.
I'm not time poor, as well as being forced to do things on the cheap. And I don't have a good area for construction these days. :( But I still like doing systems integration type activities - putting different parts together in new and useful ways.
I can buy myself a nice flex 6600 in the next hour if I wish. I prefer to build a radioberry (Raspberry Pi with a hat that act as a sdr transceiver. )
The Radioberry sounds interesting. I'm a big fan of the Pi.
I do have a flex 3000. had it for a long time. still like it..
I gave many donation to multiple project that I never even had a use for.. But I built myself a soldering station microscope out of 26$ PIcamera, a raspberry pi and some parts that I printed on my 3d printer ( home made) ) Not cause I was cheap. I wanted to know how it was all working..
There are 3 type of hams, the rich appliance operator, the cheap appliance operator and the ham that do all he can to save a cent so that he can spend on more stuff. and not being an appliance operator rich or not.
And then there's the oddballs like me who don't fit into any of the above. ;)
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