ampr.org IP addresses available for New Jersey. - 44net

Tom Hayward

24 Mar 24 Mar

5:16 p.m.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt(a)g7ltt.com> wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi all, It's a work in progress but the following link should provide a link to the IP 44/8 address allocation document for NJ. http://mrprosser.g7ltt.com We have very little AX.25 traffic in NJ but we do have a growing Mesh community which would benefit from this space. Hands up if you want some! Mark

I'm not sure I understand how breaking up subnets to counties like this is helpful. Is your routing actually hub-and-spoke like you say in the document, with a central router in each county? Do hams in that county connect directly to the central router for routing? Whether BGP, OSPF, or IPIP, I thought the plan for AMPR was do use mesh routing. I've seen a case in AMPR where addresses were pre-allocated geographically instead of by network. Despite only having 3 registered hosts in the state, the coordinator did not have enough "free" space to allocate a large /19 subnet to a multi-county microwave network. Tom KD7LXL

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Mark Phillips

5:30 p.m.

You make some good points, Tom. However, we have exactly 0 active users in NJ and so this is all moot for now. I gotta start somewhere. I've seen nor been told anything that says AMPR must use mesh routing. Please, do tell? And why would a ham microwave network need 16K addresses? are they offering service to the general public? As it happens I have plenty of space left over for just such a scenario - but more by luck than judgement :) Mark On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt(a)g7ltt.com> wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi all, It's a work in progress but the following link should provide a link to the IP 44/8 address allocation document for NJ. http://mrprosser.g7ltt.com We have very little AX.25 traffic in NJ but we do have a growing Mesh community which would benefit from this space. Hands up if you want some! Mark

I'm not sure I understand how breaking up subnets to counties like this is helpful. Is your routing actually hub-and-spoke like you say in the document, with a central router in each county? Do hams in that county connect directly to the central router for routing? Whether BGP, OSPF, or IPIP, I thought the plan for AMPR was do use mesh routing. I've seen a case in AMPR where addresses were pre-allocated geographically instead of by network. Despite only having 3 registered hosts in the state, the coordinator did not have enough "free" space to allocate a large /19 subnet to a multi-county microwave network. Tom KD7LXL _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

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Robbie De Lise

7:22 p.m.

Each link you setup between 2 nodes in the mesh needs a /30. You can get 64 /30's in a /24. These will be depleted faster then you think, especially in a mesh configuration where you build links as you go depending on what you can see with decent quality values, which is not always as logical as it might seem on a map. Sometimes a building or a mountain is in between 2 nodes only 5km apart, while you can see nodes 20km away, and ofcourse you want it all to be redundant. 73s Robbie On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt(a)g7ltt.com> wrote:

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(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ You make some good points, Tom. However, we have exactly 0 active users in NJ and so this is all moot for now. I gotta start somewhere. I've seen nor been told anything that says AMPR must use mesh routing. Please, do tell? And why would a ham microwave network need 16K addresses? are they offering service to the general public? As it happens I have plenty of space left over for just such a scenario - but more by luck than judgement :) Mark On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Tom Hayward <esarfl(a)gmail.com> wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt(a)g7ltt.com> wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi all, It's a work in progress but the following link should provide a link to the IP 44/8 address allocation document for NJ. http://mrprosser.g7ltt.com We have very little AX.25 traffic in NJ but we do have a growing Mesh community which would benefit from this space. Hands up if you want some! Mark

I'm not sure I understand how breaking up subnets to counties like this is helpful. Is your routing actually hub-and-spoke like you say in the document, with a central router in each county? Do hams in that county connect directly to the central router for routing? Whether BGP, OSPF, or IPIP, I thought the plan for AMPR was do use mesh routing. I've seen a case in AMPR where addresses were pre-allocated geographically instead of by network. Despite only having 3 registered hosts in the state, the coordinator did not have enough "free" space to allocate a large /19 subnet to a multi-county microwave network. Tom KD7LXL _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

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