27 May
2015
27 May
'15
7:48 p.m.
Subject:
Re: [44net] Bad MX records in the ampr.org DNS
From:
Rob Janssen <pe1chl(a)amsat.org>
Date:
05/25/2015 09:18 PM
To:
44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Over the past few days, I have found and deleted about 2000 bad MX records and 935 bad
CNAME records.
It appears that in the past some standard procedure has inserted many records like this:
callsign IN A 44.x.x.x
callsign IN MX 10 callsign
Later, apparently the IN A records have been deleted during some cleanup, but the IN MX
records remained.
They of course serve no function, and bind9 complains when the zone is loaded.
Furthermore, a large number of records like this existed:
something IN CNAME callsign
Again, the corresponding callsign has been deleted in the past (its A records, and now
also the dangling MX)
and that CNAME points to nothing. I have removed those as well.
There was a number of records like this:
callsign IN MX 10 44.x.x.x
This format is not allowed. A hostname should appear instead of the literal IP address.
I have changed the
records to have the corresponding hostname from the ampr.org zone.
Errors that still remain are: records of the format:
callsign IN MX 10 111.222.333.444 (referring to a public IP)
Those are:
*.xe2mbq IN MX 5 200.23.120.6
*.xe2yun IN MX 10 200.23.120.6
grr.kc8lcp IN MX 10 204.227.124.61
ka9kim IN MX 30 207.74.35.36
kc5ghg IN MX 20 206.61.58.173
linux.n8ivx IN MX 10 209.4.74.218
n5dbx IN MX 20 206.61.57.1
n8ivx IN MX 10 208.231.146.247
pacgate.zl1udy IN MX 0 202.14.100.2
ur4wwe IN MX 20 194.44.138.1
us5we IN MX 20 194.44.138.1
va3hum IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
va3yh IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
ve3fub IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
wb5fro IN MX 20 206.61.58.173
yo3ru IN MX 10 141.85.43.57
Owners, please update them with a proper hostname instead of the literal IP address.
Also, these names are used in records like:
callsign IN MX 10 name
but the name refers to a CNAME, not to an IN A record. This is not allowed by the spec,
although it usually
works. If possible, change the MX to have a hostname that points to an A record. The
illegally used CNAMEs are:
alcoy
athnet
bbs.vk2czr
club.oh1rbi
ea4rct
edugraf
etxgate.nb5i
g0wfs
gateway.n8xja
gb7sol-10
gb7tvg
gw.ir3ip
haifa
hougw2
hougw
jh3qnh
ka7oei
kb7yw
kj7pf
mail.ncpa
mx2.ir3ip
poagw
pp5dq
pp5dq-gw
pp5mcb-gw-7
pp5uf
router.kl7eet
va3lug
ve3cgr
ve3mch
ve3uow
ve6lip
vk2pk
vk2yui
vk5lz
vk5tty
w7yg
wa7ipx
wa7slg
Of course there is still lots of other out-of-date info in the DNS, but now at least it is
more standards compliant.
Rob
27 May
27 May
11:41 p.m.
New subject: Bad MX records in the ampr.org DNS
Rob,
Where you say "Owners, please update them with a proper hostname instead of
the literal IP address." I would like to point out that it is entirely
possible to have an IP address that has no HOSTNAME assigned to it at all.
The most common are used for mail. I use 2 that are setup this way for
security reasons.
I will also update my "mail.ncpa" to point to my companies mail server
direct, instead of the CNAME. (Which as you stated, did in fact, work)
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Subject:
Re: [44net] Bad MX records in the ampr.org DNS
From:
Rob Janssen <pe1chl(a)amsat.org>
Date:
05/25/2015 09:18 PM
To:
44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Over the past few days, I have found and deleted about 2000 bad MX records
and 935 bad CNAME records.
It appears that in the past some standard procedure has inserted many
records like this:
callsign IN A 44.x.x.x
callsign IN MX 10 callsign
Later, apparently the IN A records have been deleted during some cleanup,
but the IN MX records remained.
They of course serve no function, and bind9 complains when the zone is loaded.
Furthermore, a large number of records like this existed:
something IN CNAME callsign
Again, the corresponding callsign has been deleted in the past (its A
records, and now also the dangling MX)
and that CNAME points to nothing. I have removed those as well.
There was a number of records like this:
callsign IN MX 10 44.x.x.x
This format is not allowed. A hostname should appear instead of the
literal IP address. I have changed the
records to have the corresponding hostname from the ampr.org zone.
Errors that still remain are: records of the format:
callsign IN MX 10 111.222.333.444 (referring to a public IP)
Those are:
*.xe2mbq IN MX 5 200.23.120.6
*.xe2yun IN MX 10 200.23.120.6
grr.kc8lcp IN MX 10 204.227.124.61
ka9kim IN MX 30 207.74.35.36
kc5ghg IN MX 20 206.61.58.173
linux.n8ivx IN MX 10 209.4.74.218
n5dbx IN MX 20 206.61.57.1
n8ivx IN MX 10 208.231.146.247
pacgate.zl1udy IN MX 0 202.14.100.2
ur4wwe IN MX 20 194.44.138.1
us5we IN MX 20 194.44.138.1
va3hum IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
va3yh IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
ve3fub IN MX 20 206.248.184.186
wb5fro IN MX 20 206.61.58.173
yo3ru IN MX 10 141.85.43.57
Owners, please update them with a proper hostname instead of the literal
IP address.
Also, these names are used in records like:
callsign IN MX 10 name
but the name refers to a CNAME, not to an IN A record. This is not
allowed by the spec, although it usually
works. If possible, change the MX to have a hostname that points to an A
record. The illegally used CNAMEs are:
alcoy
athnet
bbs.vk2czr
club.oh1rbi
ea4rct
edugraf
etxgate.nb5i
g0wfs
gateway.n8xja
gb7sol-10
gb7tvg
gw.ir3ip
haifa
hougw2
hougw
jh3qnh
ka7oei
kb7yw
kj7pf
mail.ncpa
mx2.ir3ip
poagw
pp5dq
pp5dq-gw
pp5mcb-gw-7
pp5uf
router.kl7eet
va3lug
ve3cgr
ve3mch
ve3uow
ve6lip
vk2pk
vk2yui
vk5lz
vk5tty
w7yg
wa7ipx
wa7slg
Of course there is still lots of other out-of-date info in the DNS, but
now at least it is more standards compliant.
Rob
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11:48 p.m.
New subject: Bad MX records in the ampr.org DNS
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM, William Lewis <kg6baj(a)n1oes.org> wrote:
Where you say "Owners, please update them with a
proper hostname instead of
the literal IP address." I would like to point out that it is entirely
possible to have an IP address that has no HOSTNAME assigned to it at all.
The most common are used for mail. I use 2 that are setup this way for
security reasons.
MX records must point to a hostname. Here's a good description of why:
http://serverfault.com/a/663122
But the bottom line is: it's the spec.
Tom KD7LXL
28 May
28 May
3:22 a.m.
New subject: Bad MX records in the ampr.org DNS
I'd like us to stick with the rules that the LHS of a
CNAME record can't have any other data (ie, no MX records),
and that MX records must reference canonical hostnames.
I'd like to get it so that the nameserver doesn't have
ANY complaints when loading our zones.
I very much appreciate the cleanup work that Rob has been doing.
It's needed doing for quite some time.
Thank you.
- Brian
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