Thanks for the detailed reasponce. I have work with the 44ripd daemon and I was recieveing the route information but that would be it. In thr startampr script that is show, it tries to setup mode ipip and that is just something that I couldn't figure out how to get a ubuntu vm to run with. In the ubuntu host, the ipip works just fine and there is a module for it. But the module isn't in the VM and I dont see why. But I was told ipensec is what I'm supposed to be using? I have no idea how to route diffrent protocols....