What is the total monthly amount of traffic produced and responded to by ALL hosts on 44/8? anyonh have a vague number for this? how much traffic passes monthly through amprgw?
Eric AF6EP
That's not knowable unless you had instrumentation on every gateway and something to add them all up.
Brian may be able to give you numbers on amprgw. But consider this. I run 6 gateways. Almost all of my AMPRnet traffic goes direct to other AMPRnet sites (my own and others) and almost none of it goes through the gateway. In fact, that's the whole idea of the full mesh. So any number from amprgw would be interesting, but nowhere near representative of the total.
Michael N6MEF
-----Original Message----- What is the total monthly amount of traffic produced and responded to by ALL hosts on 44/8? anyonh have a vague number for this? how much traffic passes monthly through amprgw?
Eric AF6EP
What I'm basicly looking for is an educated guess. I'm thinking it's not that much..
Eric
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF n6mef@mefox.org wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ That's not knowable unless you had instrumentation on every gateway and something to add them all up.
Brian may be able to give you numbers on amprgw. But consider this. I run 6 gateways. Almost all of my AMPRnet traffic goes direct to other AMPRnet sites (my own and others) and almost none of it goes through the gateway. In fact, that's the whole idea of the full mesh. So any number from amprgw would be interesting, but nowhere near representative of the total.
Michael N6MEF
-----Original Message----- What is the total monthly amount of traffic produced and responded to by ALL hosts on 44/8? anyonh have a vague number for this? how much traffic passes monthly through amprgw?
Eric AF6EP
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On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 10:06:43AM -0700, Eric Fort wrote:
What I'm basicly looking for is an educated guess. I'm thinking it's not that much..
-----Original Message----- What is the total monthly amount of traffic produced and responded to by ALL hosts on 44/8? anyonh have a vague number for this? how much traffic passes monthly through amprgw?
The majority of the traffic through amprgw is what is known as IBR ("internet background radiation") and consists primarily of probes, orphan responses, backscatter, and other miscellaneous traffic that has nothing to do with the intentional ham radio related traffic.
We filter much of the IBR out and don't pass it to the tunnels so people don't wind up paying for useless bandwidth consumption. We pass the filtered-out IBR to a local host for scientific analysis.
The tunnels are fed only those packets which match their subnet address ranges ANDed with DNS-registered host addresses to minimize the amount of IBR sent down the tunnels.
A one-minute sample that I just took shows about 500 kB of traffic went through amprgw to and from tunnels, whilst some 475 MB of IBR was filtered out. It's not clear how much of the outbound tunnel traffic is ham-related, since IBR addressed to the proper ranges will go down the tunnels to the gateway endpoints.
If you're interested, the outbound tunnel filter rule is:
ip from not 10.0.0.0/8,172.16.0.0/12,169.254.0.0/16,192.168.0.0/16 \ to table(1) in not dst-port 135-139,445,1025-1028
where table 1 is the ANDed list of host addresses. - Brian
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On August 4, 2014 1:44:48 PM Bill Vodall wa7nwp@gmail.com wrote:
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That's not knowable unless you had instrumentation on every gateway
There are gateways without instrumentation? That's half the fun.
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any reasonable numbers from some of the busier nodes, maybe those nodes in europe that have actual networks behind them? between BK's 500k/min at AMPRgw (22.32g/month) and counting traffic from some if the busier nodes that know traffic loads then multiplying we ought to be able to come up with some idea.
Eric
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bill Vodall wa7nwp@gmail.com wrote:
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That's not knowable unless you had instrumentation on every gateway
There are gateways without instrumentation? That's half the fun.
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