New subject: What is 44net?

25 Apr 2014

Ridiculous.  Amprgw was out for 4 plus hours some months ago.  Your plan would put two
such failure points between most end-points.

A comment like that could ONLY come from someone with ZERO experience running production
networks.  The last thing we need is a bunch of self important amateurs with little to no
succesful carrier experience and zero contractual obligation for performance inserting
themselves in the middle of our existing traffic.

Michael
N6MEF

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From: K7VE - John &lt;k7ve(a)k7ve.org&gt; 
Date:04/25/2014  4:01 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: AMPRNet working group &lt;44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu&gt; 
Subject: Re: [44net] What is 44net? 

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Most failures are localized and temporary.

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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF &lt;n6mef(a)mefox.org&gt;wrote;wrote:

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 So how do you do it now?  You use an IPIP tunnel
(another type of
VPN), nothing changes for the end user except, his tables get much
smaller,  she routes local 44.x.x.x traffic locally and uses an IPIP
tunnel to a tier or border router. 
 So you're creating multiple new single points of failure.  With your plan,
 I
 can get to a few other local gateways.  Anything else has to go through
 this
 new single point of failure locally, plus, presumably, and another single
 point of failure near my destination.  So most worldwide connectivity would
 now have to traverse two single points of failure that currently don't
 exist.  This is good because ...?

 Michael
 N6MEF

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