30 Jan
2014
30 Jan
'14
2:27 a.m.
Hi list,
I'm trying to get a mikrotik RB2011 connected to AMPRGW but not having
success.
/ip route check 44.0.0.1
status: ok
interface: ampr-gw
nexthop: 44.0.0.1
/tool traceroute 44.0.0.1
# ADDRESS LOSS SENT LAST AVG BEST
WORST STD-DEV
STATUS
1 44.34.128.1 0% 2 0.5ms 0.5 0.5
0.5 0 host unreachable from
44.34.128.1
2 0% 0 0ms
Using the sniffer, I've tried to also ping my address (44.34.128.1) from
the outside, but it does not get through. In addition, pinging 44.0.0.1
from the router fails as well (tracert shown above). I do however see a
discovery attempt going out and not getting any response back.
/tool sniffer quick interface=ampr-gw
INTERFACE TIME NUM DIR SRC-MAC DST-MAC VLAN
SRC-ADDRESS DST-ADDRESS
PROTOCOL SIZE
ampr-gw 33.3 1 ->
44.34.128.1:5678 (discovery) 255.255.255.255:5678 (discovery)
ip:udp 114
I do have an IPIP interface to the edge router for 44.24.240.0/20, and that
is operating properly; I can access their network, and they can access
mine. So, I'm a bit puzzled by this.
My config amprgw:
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
Any help is greatly appreciated!
--
Ryan Turner
30 Jan
30 Jan
5:12 a.m.
Hi Ryan,
Unfortunately, ampr doesn't work this way.
You need an ipip interface with a direct connection to every gw from the
encap file.
Your set-up will encap all traffic to ampr hosts and send it to amprgw which
is not what you want.
That is what the mentioned scrip accomplishes.
Marius,YO2LOJ
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From: 44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Ryan
Elliott Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 04:27
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] Getting mikrotik router gateway connected to amprgw
...
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
....
5:18 a.m.
Hi Marius,
I understand that I'll have to make an ipip tunnel to all of the other
gateways (as listed in the encap file). I was under the impression that for
non-44net traffic in and out, a tunnel to amprgw was used. There is no
44.0.0.1 entry in the encap file, though, so I'm beginning to wonder if I
really am misunderstanding.
Thanks for your reply.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Marius Petrescu <marius(a)yo2loj.ro> wrote:
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_______________________________________________
Hi Ryan,
Unfortunately, ampr doesn't work this way.
You need an ipip interface with a direct connection to every gw from the
encap file.
Your set-up will encap all traffic to ampr hosts and send it to amprgw
which
is not what you want.
That is what the mentioned scrip accomplishes.
Marius,YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: 44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of
Ryan
Elliott Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 04:27
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] Getting mikrotik router gateway connected to amprgw
...
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
....
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Ryan Turner
7:01 a.m.
Ryan, the route there creates the problem...
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
You try to push the 44.0.0.0/8 traffic to the tunnel. That traffic belongs
elsewhere...
The host you are pinging in 44 space expects you to do it via a direct
tunnel, not via amprgw.
You need this kind of rules for outgoing traffic:
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to 44.0.0.0/8 it has to go to your ipip tunnels
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw if the connection
originated from the ampr tunnel (connection mark is your friend here).
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw (I would masquerade to
the public IP to reduce de load on amprgw instead of this).
FYI: amprgw does not respond to ping if addressesd via the tunnel, only if
pinged from the internet.
Maybe these ideas help.
MArius, YO2LOJ
7:08 a.m.
Thanks for the tips, I'll add and change the routes. I'm still curious what
else I'm missing though, since my address 44.34.128.1 is not pingable from
the internet (but it was via the 44.24.240.0 net that I have an ipip setup
for).
On Jan 30, 2014 1:02 AM, "Marius Petrescu" <marius(a)yo2loj.ro> wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Ryan, the route there creates the problem...
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw
remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
You try to push the 44.0.0.0/8 traffic to the tunnel. That traffic belongs
elsewhere...
The host you are pinging in 44 space expects you to do it via a direct
tunnel, not via amprgw.
You need this kind of rules for outgoing traffic:
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to 44.0.0.0/8 it has to go to your ipip tunnels
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw if the connection
originated from the ampr tunnel (connection mark is your friend here).
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw (I would masquerade to
the public IP to reduce de load on amprgw instead of this).
FYI: amprgw does not respond to ping if addressesd via the tunnel, only if
pinged from the internet.
Maybe these ideas help.
MArius, YO2LOJ
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2:43 p.m.
Ok, I've added this now:
/ip firewall mangle
add action=mark-packet chain=prerouting in-interface=ampr-gw
new-packet-mark=ampr-gw
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat out-interface=ampr-gw
/ip route
add distance=1 gateway=ampr-gw routing-mark=ampr-gw
and I still have
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw remote-address=169.228.66.251
So, it seems that is a better setup to get replies sent out to amprgw, but
the trouble remains that I still haven't been getting traffic in from the
gw EXCEPT for rip multicast (Im rxing traffic for dst address 224.0.0.9).
The address should be 44.34.128.1.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Ryan Elliott Turner <ryan.e.t(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Thanks for the tips, I'll add and change the
routes. I'm still curious
what else I'm missing though, since my address 44.34.128.1 is not pingable
from the internet (but it was via the 44.24.240.0 net that I have an ipip
setup for).
On Jan 30, 2014 1:02 AM, "Marius Petrescu" <marius(a)yo2loj.ro> wrote:
--
Ryan Turner
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Ryan, the route there creates the problem...
/interface ipip
add local-address=99.173.137.24 name=ampr-gw
remote-address=169.228.66.251
/ip route
add distance=1 dst-address=44.0.0.0/8 gateway=ampr-gw
You try to push the 44.0.0.0/8 traffic to the tunnel. That traffic
belongs
elsewhere...
The host you are pinging in 44 space expects you to do it via a direct
tunnel, not via amprgw.
You need this kind of rules for outgoing traffic:
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to 44.0.0.0/8 it has to go to your ipip tunnels
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw if the connection
originated from the ampr tunnel (connection mark is your friend here).
- For src 44.0.0.0/8 to any it is passed to amprgw (I would masquerade
to
the public IP to reduce de load on amprgw instead of this).
FYI: amprgw does not respond to ping if addressesd via the tunnel, only if
pinged from the internet.
Maybe these ideas help.
MArius, YO2LOJ
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4:07 p.m.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:43:59AM -0600, Ryan Elliott Turner wrote:
So, it seems that is a better setup to get replies
sent out to amprgw, but
the trouble remains that I still haven't been getting traffic in from the
gw EXCEPT for rip multicast (Im rxing traffic for dst address 224.0.0.9).
The address should be 44.34.128.1.
44.34.128.1 isn't listed in the AMPR DNS and the amprgw gateway won't pass
traffic to addresses that aren't in the DNS. I can add that to the DNS if
you'll tell me the hostname you want to use for it.
- Brian
4:41 p.m.
There is however a 44.34.128/21 in the RIP broadcasts.
This resolves to 44.34.128.1 - 44.34.135.254.
Is this correct?
-----Original Message-----
From: 44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Brian
Kantor
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 18:08
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] Getting mikrotik router gateway connected to amprgw
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:43:59AM -0600, Ryan Elliott Turner wrote:
So, it seems that is a better setup to get replies
sent out to amprgw, but
the trouble remains that I still haven't been getting traffic in from the
gw EXCEPT for rip multicast (Im rxing traffic for dst address 224.0.0.9).
The address should be 44.34.128.1.
44.34.128.1 isn't listed in the AMPR DNS and the amprgw gateway won't pass
traffic to addresses that aren't in the DNS. I can add that to the DNS if
you'll tell me the hostname you want to use for it.
- Brian
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4:43 p.m.
Pls ignore the previous message. I didn't get Brians message correctly. Just
came from work :-)
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