Re: FIOS Router CR1000A - 44net

19 Jul 2022

Hi Rob,

I agree 100%. Having two networks that really don't talk to each other
but with a common address space is ridiculous.

Along the lines you mention, perhaps ARDC should consider a "grant", or
perhaps a better word, RFQ from various ISP's who could set up such a
thing and run it. This would eliminate all the bickering/discussion of
what is the best way/protocol to do something like this as well as
determining where to locate POP's around the world.

Vultr comes to mind simply because they are doing it for a number of
AMPR users already. Of course, other ISP's could do it, but Vultr is the
most often mentioned company.

I would think that the chosen ISP would set up one AMPR network with
connectivity to all 44 network addresses and give an option to any
subscriber to have his segment BGP announced or not.

73, Mark, N2MH

  On 7/19/22 14:16, Rob PE1CHL via 44net wrote:
...
  I hope that, rather sooner than later, we can offer a
new connectivity 
 option for AMPRnet that does not require tricks in your router, does 
 not depend on a static address, works with CGNAT, etc.
 The objective is to use a modern standard VPN instead of IPIP 
 (wireguard, openvpn, l2tp/ipsec or whatever) to connect to a 
 relatively local point of presence that will handle the further 
 routing towards other users and the internet for you, with good 
 latency and reliability.
 That will end the continuous battling with the IPIP mesh that 
 unfortunately is the reality of today.
 Software would run on a standard router (not the router from your ISP, 
 more like a MikroTik or UBNT or openwrt device), or e.g. a Raspberry Pi.

 We need to lower the bar for making connections.  Like you, most 
 people want to put applications online rather than fighting with 
 protocols that are not easy to deploy anymore.

 Rob

 On 7/19/22 19:48, Mark Herson, N2MH via 44net wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who replied.
>
> Nobody actually directly answered the question that I posed of having 
> actually used this router and/or having some experience with it. 
> Thus, I'll take that as a collective "no". 