Another vote against discourse. groups.io seems to be pretty great tho, lots of ham organizations using it. You can interact via the web or via email.
73 de KM8V
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Kutsch KY2D Jim.Kutsch@ky2d.com To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:03:07 -0400 Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration Hi, Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion system, not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new rather than just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I find it like having an inconvenient PO Box that you have to intentionally go visit to see if anything is there vs. mail being delivered to my home mailbox.
73 Jim KY2D
-----Original Message----- From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53 To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
Hey Jeff,
Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to Discourse.
Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
Rosy
Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ampr.org
On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but not the user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even if I try to perform password recovery, I get the following message:
"The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google Groups or Groups.io instead of having someone host a Mailman server?
Jeff Hochberg W4JEW Atlanta, GA jeff@w4jew.com mailto:jeff@w4jew.com
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman. The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user (" The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ") Mike / AA8IA On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon@anhold.com <mailto:jon@anhold.com>> wrote: Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a user when I try to reset my password. 73 de KM8V On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote: Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard to email reputation. SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC allfailed.
2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org%3E SPF record
and it appears themailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org>emails are being signed with anARDC.NET http://ARDC.NET DKIM key rather than amailman.ampr.org http://mailman.ampr.org DKIM key
Mike / AA8IA On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>wrote:
Hello All, FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server lastweek:
The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all the services associated with the mailing list continued to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden reboot had corrupted several open files associated with the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for several days. Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only set to a few days and by the time the issue was investigated all the available backups were of the corrupted files. As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated the 44net list there. I am pleased to report that the archives from the old server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of data there thankfully. The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found here:https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
<https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/%3E
The MX record has been updated to point to the new server, so you should continue to send emails to 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> to post to the list. I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it has provided excellent service to the community. John is going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the 44net mailing list on it’s new home. Best 73, Chris - G1FEF _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org> _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org> _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Damien Gardner vk2tdg@gmail.com To: Jim Kutsch KY2D Jim.Kutsch@ky2d.com Cc: AMPRNet working group 44net@mailman.ampr.org Bcc: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:08:59 +1000 Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration Yeah I'm just adding my vote for please god, do NOT move to discourse. SAGE-AU moved to discourse a couple of years ago, and it killed the organisation. As it turned out, like 90% of the members REALLY like email, and had absolutely no interest in moving their conversations to a web message board. As much as discourse likes to say it supports email, it really doesn't do a good job of it, and with members cracking the shits and leaving, SAGE-AU went broke last year, and now we don't have a peak body for IT Professionals in Australia.
--DG
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 11:03, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi, Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion system, not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new rather than just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I find it like having an inconvenient PO Box that you have to intentionally go visit to see if anything is there vs. mail being delivered to my home mailbox.
73 Jim KY2D
-----Original Message----- From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53 To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
Hey Jeff,
Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to Discourse.
Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
Rosy
Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ampr.org
On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but not
the
user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even if I try to perform password recovery, I get the following message:
"The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google
Groups
or Groups.io instead of having someone host a Mailman server?
Jeff Hochberg W4JEW Atlanta, GA jeff@w4jew.com mailto:jeff@w4jew.com
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman. The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user (" The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ") Mike / AA8IA On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon@anhold.com <mailto:jon@anhold.com>> wrote: Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a user when I try to reset my password. 73 de KM8V On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote: Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard to email reputation. SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC allfailed.
2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org%3E SPF record
and it appears themailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org%3E emails are being signed with anARDC.NET < http://ARDC.NET%3E DKIM key rather than amailman.ampr.org < http://mailman.ampr.org%3E DKIM key
Mike / AA8IA On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>wrote:
Hello All, FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server lastweek:
The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all the services associated with the mailing list continued to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden reboot had corrupted several open files associated with the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for several days. Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only set to a few days and by the time the issue was investigated all the available backups were of the corrupted files. As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated the 44net list there. I am pleased to report that the archives from the old server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of data there thankfully. The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found here:https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
<https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
The MX record has been updated to point to the new server, so you should continue to send emails to 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> to post to the list. I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it has provided excellent service to the community. John is going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the 44net mailing list on it’s new home. Best 73, Chris - G1FEF _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org> _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
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