Applying for a LOTW cert is a rather painful and intrusive process outside of the USA. Josh
-------- Original message -------- From: Ruben ON3RVH on3rvh@on3rvh.be Date: 15/09/2017 20:01 (GMT+10:00) To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] USENET news on AMPRNet
Why not use LOTW for authentication? It's been done before and if you are LOTW verified it means that you are a radio amateur
73,
Ruben - ON3RVH
-----Original Message----- From: 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+on3rvh=on3rvh.be@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Janssen Sent: vrijdag 15 september 2017 11:43 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] USENET news on AMPRNet
Don't solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Usenet access is readily and economically available. There are enough providers that there are sites that review which is best. Google for 'usenet providers' and see for yourself.
The idea of course (at least I think) wasn't to provide generic usenet access on AMPRNet. Instead, it would be used for closed access discussion like this mailing list. Only a couple of hamradio related groups.
Of course this immediately shows the practical problem: the authentication of valid users. You would need to maintain a table of users similar to what the mailing list now has, and when you want a couple of news servers around the world, you would want this access information to be somehow synchronized between them.
Additionally, you may want some groups accessible to "any radio amateur". But then you run into the problem that has been encountered so often: how to authenticate a radio amateur without maintaining yet another user list where new applicants have to be validated by people who would prefer to do more valued work.
Rob
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I got mine without much of a hassle and I am in Belgium :) But I do not know about how long it takes or what it takes for other countries.
73,
Ruben - ON3RVH
-----Original Message----- From: 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+on3rvh=on3rvh.be@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: vrijdag 15 september 2017 12:20 To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] USENET news on AMPRNet
Applying for a LOTW cert is a rather painful and intrusive process outside of the USA. Josh
-------- Original message -------- From: Ruben ON3RVH on3rvh@on3rvh.be Date: 15/09/2017 20:01 (GMT+10:00) To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] USENET news on AMPRNet
Why not use LOTW for authentication? It's been done before and if you are LOTW verified it means that you are a radio amateur
73,
Ruben - ON3RVH
-----Original Message----- From: 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+on3rvh=on3rvh.be@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Janssen Sent: vrijdag 15 september 2017 11:43 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] USENET news on AMPRNet
Don't solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Usenet access is readily and economically available. There are enough providers that there are sites that review which is best. Google for 'usenet providers' and see for yourself.
The idea of course (at least I think) wasn't to provide generic usenet access on AMPRNet. Instead, it would be used for closed access discussion like this mailing list. Only a couple of hamradio related groups.
Of course this immediately shows the practical problem: the authentication of valid users. You would need to maintain a table of users similar to what the mailing list now has, and when you want a couple of news servers around the world, you would want this access information to be somehow synchronized between them.
Additionally, you may want some groups accessible to "any radio amateur". But then you run into the problem that has been encountered so often: how to authenticate a radio amateur without maintaining yet another user list where new applicants have to be validated by people who would prefer to do more valued work.
Rob
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On 15/09/2017 8:19 PM, Josh wrote:
Applying for a LOTW cert is a rather painful and intrusive process outside of the USA.
Precisely. That's the reason I never bothered.
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