Subject: Re: [44net] easy amprnet attachemet and connection - seeking peers for cost sharing From: Eric Fort <eric.fort(a)gmail.com> Date: 05/13/2015 05:40 AM To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> there are 2 problems here which I'm working to address. The first being that even though ipip tunneling is defined via rfc it's still relitively nonstandard and I can't think of anywhere other than amateur radio / 44net where it is used, much less used widely. It's also not generally handeled well by many consumer grade household nat routers. I can't go to the web interface on my cheapo whatever name consumer router and set up the tunnel(s) I need to import a link to amprnet. If Tunnels are done with something like IPSec, PPTP, or OpenVPN it's much better supported and is easier to setup. the edge connections can simply establish their link(s) to one or more hubs with known static IP, be assigned/connected to a netblock, and be in business just by using their basic consumer grade router and no other fancy or overly technical setup. Eric AF6EP