15 Feb
2016
15 Feb
'16
4:31 a.m.
Hi,
I'm TK1BI, and I'm living in Corsica. It's a small island in the
Mediterranean sea. It's a French "department". But it's a specific DXCC
country : TK.
With my friend TK5EP, we are managing the TK5KP radio-club, which has
been very active for years. We are now designing a hamnet network for
our island. I'm wondering if it would be possible to obtain a /16 subnet
for our "country". If so, what would be the requirements ?
Here are some arguments :
- In the ham radio world, Corsica is a separate DXCC country.
- On an administrative point of view, Corsica is a department of France.
But it's an island, and there's 300 km of sea between us and France. So,
it's an independant geographical unit.
- On a political point of view, Corsica has a specific language (similar
to Italian), and a local government that would tend to more autonomy
inside France and Europe.
- On a historical point of view, Corsica has been one of the first
republics in the world (30 years before France), and its Constitution,
written in 1755 by Pasquale PAOLI, was used as a reference for the
constitution of the United States of America
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli).
- On a technical point of view, we're already using the 44.151.20.0/24
subnet (from France). And it would be technically enough to handle all
our future needs. The "internal" net is built on 10.x.y.0/24 subnets,
and only the external gateway has a 44.x address. Anyway, having a /16
would allow us to separate each region and city in /24 subnets, and use
44.x adresses everywhere (no more 10.x).
As you can see, this request is not really based on technical needs;
It's mostly a request to affirm our identity in the hamradio world.
I'm a Systems Engineer, specialized in network and telecom. I'll host
the backbone of the network in my professional datacenters (one in
France/OVH, and one here in Corsica). My company will give free hosting,
free VMs, free IP addresses and free bandwidth to the radio-club, so
that the network will benefit of latest technologies at no cost. We'll
also have BGP capabilities. TK5EP and I will be the sysadmins.
Then, would it be possible to get a /16 subnet for Corsica ?
Thank you in avance.
73 de TK1BI
15 Feb
15 Feb
4:44 a.m.
New subject: Obtaining a /16 network for a specific DXCC country (TK) ?
Hi Toussaint,
F5PBG (f5pbg(a)free.fr) can help you, he is one of the French Hamnet admins.
It still remains, if I'm right, some free B subnets for FR.
So ask him.
Anyway, your BGP capabilities seem to be interesting, could we discuss about
as I have some difficulties to set up my IPIP tunnel. BGP should be better I
guess.
We can call us by skype if you want.
Best 73 from F1SCA - Yvelines
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Objet : [44net] Obtaining a /16 network for a specific DXCC country (TK) ?
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_______________________________________________
Hi,
I'm TK1BI, and I'm living in Corsica. It's a small island in the
Mediterranean sea. It's a French "department". But it's a specific DXCC
country : TK.
With my friend TK5EP, we are managing the TK5KP radio-club, which has been
very active for years. We are now designing a hamnet network for our island.
I'm wondering if it would be possible to obtain a /16 subnet for our
"country". If so, what would be the requirements ?
Here are some arguments :
- In the ham radio world, Corsica is a separate DXCC country.
- On an administrative point of view, Corsica is a department of France.
But it's an island, and there's 300 km of sea between us and France. So,
it's an independant geographical unit.
- On a political point of view, Corsica has a specific language (similar to
Italian), and a local government that would tend to more autonomy inside
France and Europe.
- On a historical point of view, Corsica has been one of the first republics
in the world (30 years before France), and its Constitution, written in 1755
by Pasquale PAOLI, was used as a reference for the constitution of the
United States of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli).
- On a technical point of view, we're already using the 44.151.20.0/24
subnet (from France). And it would be technically enough to handle all our
future needs. The "internal" net is built on 10.x.y.0/24 subnets, and only
the external gateway has a 44.x address. Anyway, having a /16 would allow us
to separate each region and city in /24 subnets, and use 44.x adresses
everywhere (no more 10.x).
As you can see, this request is not really based on technical needs; It's
mostly a request to affirm our identity in the hamradio world.
I'm a Systems Engineer, specialized in network and telecom. I'll host the
backbone of the network in my professional datacenters (one in France/OVH,
and one here in Corsica). My company will give free hosting, free VMs, free
IP addresses and free bandwidth to the radio-club, so that the network will
benefit of latest technologies at no cost. We'll also have BGP capabilities.
TK5EP and I will be the sysadmins.
Then, would it be possible to get a /16 subnet for Corsica ?
Thank you in avance.
73 de TK1BI
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5:08 a.m.
Le 15/02/2016 10:44, Jean-Marc Magnier a écrit :
F5PBG (f5pbg(a)free.fr) can help you, he is one of the
French Hamnet admins.
It still remains, if I'm right, some free B subnets for FR.
So ask him.
Hi Jean-Marc,
I'm already in contact with Ludovic F5PBG, which gave us the IP we're
using on our test gateway (44.151.20.1).
Anyway, I'm now designing our future network, and I'd like to know if it
would be possible to get a /16 to affirm our identity. If so, that would
be the best option for us. If not, we'll use a 44.151.20.x subnet from
Ludovic.
Anyway, your BGP capabilities seem to be interesting,
could we discuss about
as I have some difficulties to set up my IPIP tunnel. BGP should be better I
guess.
Actually, I only have an IP-IP tunnel, on the IP address 44.151.20.1,
and it works fine. It's a kind of "proof of concept", to help us
designing our future network.
I'm planning installation in a new datacenter for my company. Then, I'm
also thinking about the amateur project, so that our radio-club can
benefit of my company's investments. BGP will be available there, in a
few months (I hope !).
Anyway, networking between Corsica and France uses submarine fiber
optics, and adds high latency. "Announcing" French networks in Corsica
via BGP, then routing the corresponding traffic to you through our slow
links, would not have much sense. Then, I'm also investigating about how
to "announce" BGP subnets from datacenters in France, at pricing
compatible with amateur budgets ;-)
As said before, for now, I'm on the "design" and "alpha tests"
phases.
I'll open a WEB/mail server, and probably a mailing-list, about our
"TKNet" network. I'll invite you, and we'll be able to discuss
technical/local aspects, also with Ludovic and others. But you'll have
to wait a few weeks ;-)
5:37 a.m.
New subject: Obtaining a /16 network for a specific DXCC country (TK) ?
I don;t think you have to wait for BGP and there is no pricing involved.
The Hamnet uses private 16 (legacy) and 32 bit AS and is not related in any
way to the world wide BGP announcements so no need to wait for anything,
since we are doing it inside the 44net address space. And there are no costs
additional involved.
See also:
http://laru.lu/on-the-air/hamnet-44net.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code
on how the ASN are proposed to be used
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Toussaint OTTAVI
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:08
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] Obtaining a /16 network for a specific DXCC country
(TK) ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Le 15/02/2016 10:44, Jean-Marc Magnier a écrit :
F5PBG (f5pbg(a)free.fr) can help you, he is one of the
French Hamnet admins.
It still remains, if I'm right, some free B subnets for FR.
So ask him.
Hi Jean-Marc,
I'm already in contact with Ludovic F5PBG, which gave us the IP we're
using on our test gateway (44.151.20.1).
Anyway, I'm now designing our future network, and I'd like to know if it
would be possible to get a /16 to affirm our identity. If so, that would
be the best option for us. If not, we'll use a 44.151.20.x subnet from
Ludovic.
Anyway, your BGP capabilities seem to be interesting,
could we discuss
about
as I have some difficulties to set up my IPIP tunnel. BGP should be better
I
guess.
Actually, I only have an IP-IP tunnel, on the IP address 44.151.20.1,
and it works fine. It's a kind of "proof of concept", to help us
designing our future network.
I'm planning installation in a new datacenter for my company. Then, I'm
also thinking about the amateur project, so that our radio-club can
benefit of my company's investments. BGP will be available there, in a
few months (I hope !).
Anyway, networking between Corsica and France uses submarine fiber
optics, and adds high latency. "Announcing" French networks in Corsica
via BGP, then routing the corresponding traffic to you through our slow
links, would not have much sense. Then, I'm also investigating about how
to "announce" BGP subnets from datacenters in France, at pricing
compatible with amateur budgets ;-)
As said before, for now, I'm on the "design" and "alpha tests"
phases.
I'll open a WEB/mail server, and probably a mailing-list, about our
"TKNet" network. I'll invite you, and we'll be able to discuss
technical/local aspects, also with Ludovic and others. But you'll have
to wait a few weeks ;-)
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6:38 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Hi,
Le 15/02/2016 11:37, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
The Hamnet uses private 16 (legacy) and 32 bit AS and
is not related
in any way to the world wide BGP announcements so no need to wait for
anything, since we are doing it inside the 44net address space.
Sorry, but I don't understand that. I never used BGP before.
Here's a example. Please correct if I'm misunderstading something :
- Let's assume I'm managing the 44.151.20.0/24 subnet locally in my area
- Let's assume 44.151.20.1 is a web server located in my local
datacenter, in a DMZ : HamNet users with 44.x IPs can access it; but I
want it to be accessible also from Internet
Actually, I'm using an IP-IP tunnel. The actual route from Internet to
44.151.20.1 is via amprgw.sysnet.ucsd.edu, in California.
Then, an user on Internet located just near me, that wants to reach my
web server, has to go to ucsd (via Internet), then back to me (via IP-IP
tunnel). This implies a 350ms latency !!!
The purpose of BGP would be to announce the 44.151.20.0/24 locally from
my datacenter. This would be a world wide BGP announcement, on Internet.
Then, people from Internet needing to reach my web server, would get a
shorter path, without having to transit via California.
Did i miss, or misunderstand something ?
See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code
on how the ASN are proposed to be used
Sorry, this link is about "mobile country code"...
8:01 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Yes, you are right.
But if the user near you is not an authorized ham radio operator, and if he
will use ham radio links, that is illegal.
So, unless you can guarantee that there will be no ham specific on-the-air
activity, it is ok.
But usually, since this is a amateur radio network, there is no reason why a
regular internet user should have direct access to the 44 address space.
If he is a ham radio operator, he can join 44net, if not, he can use public
IPs, where the gateway can provide public access to selected services.
The ampr gateway actually creates a filter, by preventing direct forwarding
between ampr subnets and selective IP access, so a regular internet user can
only connect via tunnels to registered hosts (in this case meaning hosts
with an DNS entry).
At least this is how I see things.
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Toussaint OTTAVI
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 13:38
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Hi,
Le 15/02/2016 11:37, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
The Hamnet uses private 16 (legacy) and 32 bit AS and
is not related in
any way to the world wide BGP announcements so no need to wait for
anything, since we are doing it inside the 44net address space.
Sorry, but I don't understand that. I never used BGP before.
Here's a example. Please correct if I'm misunderstading something :
- Let's assume I'm managing the 44.151.20.0/24 subnet locally in my area
- Let's assume 44.151.20.1 is a web server located in my local
datacenter, in a DMZ : HamNet users with 44.x IPs can access it; but I
want it to be accessible also from Internet
Actually, I'm using an IP-IP tunnel. The actual route from Internet to
44.151.20.1 is via amprgw.sysnet.ucsd.edu, in California.
Then, an user on Internet located just near me, that wants to reach my
web server, has to go to ucsd (via Internet), then back to me (via IP-IP
tunnel). This implies a 350ms latency !!!
The purpose of BGP would be to announce the 44.151.20.0/24 locally from
my datacenter. This would be a world wide BGP announcement, on Internet.
Then, people from Internet needing to reach my web server, would get a
shorter path, without having to transit via California.
Did i miss, or misunderstand something ?
See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code
on how the ASN are proposed to be used
Sorry, this link is about "mobile country code"...
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9:28 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Le 15/02/2016 14:01, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
But if the user near you is not an authorized ham
radio operator, and
if he will use ham radio links, that is illegal.
So, unless you can guarantee that there will be no ham specific
on-the-air activity, it is ok.
You are true :-) But, on a networking point of view, this is not a
"routing" problem. This is a "firewall" problem, which should be
handled
in upper layers.
But usually, since this is a amateur radio network,
there is no reason
why a regular internet user should have direct access to the 44
address space.
In my design, all communications between Internet and hamnet will be
firewalled, of course with very restrictive rules ! Regular users must
not have direct access to ham networks, but anybody should be able to
listen ham QSOs. I see several situations where information should be
accessed both by hams and Internet users. For example, a WEB server
presenting the project and the ham activities, where people could listen
the QSOs on our VHF/UHF networks through a WEB interface, a
reverse-beacon system, etc... This will be handled through a "DMZ". The
Internet users will have "read only" access.
I see several ways of doing that :
1/ A central gateway, with one public (Internet) IP address, and one
44.x address. This gateway would act as a router/firewall/VPN server,
and would handle all trafic between different networks. Access to
servers in DMZ is achieved via NAT.
2/ Publicly available machines (those in DMZ) have dual IP addressing :
one public WAN IP (for accessing from Internet) and one 44.x address
(for accessing from hamnet). Anyway, this makes administration more
complicated. I'm not a fan of dual addresses.
3/ All hamnet machines have 44.x addresses (whether they can be accessed
from Internet or not). They are organized in smaller subnets, or
"zones", and a firewall allows/forbids trafic between zones according to
our general policy
Actually, our test network is built as in 1. But the solution 3 seems
better to me on an engineering point of view. I think it's easier to
manage and to reconfigure. The final setup has not been decided yet, and
will probably be a mix of the three.
Moreover, there are "special" situations that need to be investigated.
For example, one of our sites will host a VHF repeater, that will be
connected to the central VoIP server, through a pure hamnet link. But
this site also hosts a meteo station and a webcam, whose results are not
reserved to ham people, but need to be shared over Internet. And this
site is also used as a contest station, where operators in "assisted
mode" want to be able to access to Internet, and update their Facebook
status during the 48h of the contest :-) What type of addressing should
we use for that site ? 44.x ? Public Internet ? Private 10.x ? The
answer is not as easy as "regular users should not have access to 44.x
address space" ;-)
The ampr gateway actually creates a filter, by
preventing direct
forwarding between ampr subnets and selective IP access, so a regular
internet user can only connect via tunnels to registered hosts (in
this case meaning hosts with an DNS entry).
ampr.org provides those facilities in standard. But, as we want to be
"autonomous", we will provide our own tunnels (IPSEC for site to site
VPNs, OpenVPN for end-users). Then, my idea would be to handle all this
locally, on our central firewall/gateway, so that we can fine-tune the
rules to our needs. That's why routing the whole 44.x subnet via BGP to
our gateway seems interesting to me.
Comments and ideas are welcome.
73 de TK1BI
8:16 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Regarding BGP inside the Hamnet...
BGP is a routing protocol. That means it can be used to manage routing
inside ANY network. The fact that is is used on the public internet does not
mean it is used exclusively for that.
In the European Hamnet, there are a lot of hosts, in the order of thousands,
which need to know how to reach each other.
For this purpose, BGP is used internally, to ensure an automatic routing
configuration between Hamnet routers.
So, as long as you have only one single gateway (your IPIP tunnel) and a
single subnet. it is of no relevance to you, since a simple route, like
44.0.0.0/8 via tunnel will do the job and you will rely on your remote
tunnel endpoint router to do the proper routing.
On the other hand, if you have multiple network connections between multiple
subnets, then it becomes useful so that you do not need to manually
configure the whole stuff.
Internally, in this 44net address space, how we use ASNs is up to us. Fur
this reason, an allocation schema has been proposed, and is partly
implemented, based on private ASN, so that if somehow BGP announcements
"escape" to the wild, they will be dropped.
The next step, announcing a public BGP subnet to the internet, is a whole
new issue. For this you need to coordinate with Brian Kantor, which is the
official administrator/owner of the 44 address space, to allow that (and
there is some paperwork involved, from both sides, including your ISP, which
has to adopt your 44 subnet into his ASN).
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Toussaint OTTAVI
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 13:38
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Hi,
Le 15/02/2016 11:37, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
The Hamnet uses private 16 (legacy) and 32 bit AS and
is not related in
any way to the world wide BGP announcements so no need to wait for
anything, since we are doing it inside the 44net address space.
Sorry, but I don't understand that. I never used BGP before.
...
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8:32 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Le 15/02/2016 14:16, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
Internally, in this 44net address space, how we use
ASNs is up to us.
Fur this reason, an allocation schema has been proposed, and is partly
implemented, based on private ASN, so that if somehow BGP
announcements "escape" to the wild, they will be dropped.
The next step, announcing a public BGP subnet to the internet, is a
whole new issue. For this you need to coordinate with Brian Kantor,
which is the official administrator/owner of the 44 address space, to
allow that (and there is some paperwork involved, from both sides,
including your ISP, which has to adopt your 44 subnet into his ASN).
Thank you for clarification about internal and external routing. I
thought only RIP was used for internal routing, I didn't know about BGP.
Of course, I was talking about public/external routing, via a paper
agreement between Brian Kantor and my ISP. That's what I'm planning to
do, when I will in my new datacenter.
9:27 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
How do you do BGP ? for the inside hamnet ? do you use router that announce it ? If
yes what type ? CISCO Other etc ?
do you have any document of the BGP implementation you use there ??
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
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From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Marius
Petrescu <marius(a)yo2loj.ro>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 5:16 AM
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
For this purpose, BGP is used internally, to ensure an automatic routing
configuration between Hamnet routers.
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Toussaint OTTAVI
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 13:38
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Hi,
Le 15/02/2016 11:37, Marius Petrescu a écrit :
The Hamnet uses private 16 (legacy) and 32 bit AS and
is not related in
any way to the world wide BGP announcements so no need to wait for
anything, since we are doing it inside the 44net address space.
Sorry, but I don't understand that. I never used BGP before.
...
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10:08 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Ronen,
Most routers in the Hamnet are Mikrotik routers, which all support BGP, no
matter the model, since they all run the same RouterOS firmware.
Each subnet directly connected to a router is entered into its BGP table and
forwarded to its neighbour(s).
Some other nodes run Quagga on Linux for this purposes, Quagga being also
available on OpenWRT.
So basically that's it.
For more info you can check http://hamnetdb.net which is the networks
management core (a nice map is available on a button in the top right).
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: R P
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 16:27
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
How do you do BGP ? for the inside hamnet ? do you use router that
announce it ? If yes what type ? CISCO Other etc ?
do you have any document of the BGP implementation you use there ??
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
17 Feb
17 Feb
2:56 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Do they support IPIP tunneling as well ?
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
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From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Marius
Petrescu <marius(a)yo2loj.ro>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:08 AM
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
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_______________________________________________
Ronen,
Most routers in the Hamnet are Mikrotik routers, which all support BGP,
3:13 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Hi Ronen
Mikrotik Routers support many features out of the box, IPIP, GRE, PPT,
L2TP Tunnels are a few of them. Routing protocols are BGP, OSPF, RIP out
of the box. You get these pieces in several levels. Some of them are
very powerfull e.g. 72-Core-Routers (tilera processors). You may have a
look at
http://routerboard.com
http://www.mikrotik.com
http://download2.mikrotik.com/what_is_routeros.pdf
73s de Egbert DD9QP
Am 17.02.2016 um 08:56 schrieb R P:
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Do they support IPIP tunneling as well ?
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
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Marius Petrescu <marius(a)yo2loj.ro>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:08 AM
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
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_______________________________________________
Ronen,
Most routers in the Hamnet are Mikrotik routers, which all support BGP,
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3:14 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Thank you Edgar
I look for Hardware solutions for making our gateways
I know Cisco can serve as Gateway
Now i start to understand that Microtik also can do it
Do you know if anyone is doing a GateWay with Microtik ? if yes may I get the config
to do IPIP for the 44 net ?
Thanks Forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
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From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Egbert
- DD9QP <dd9qp(a)db0res-svr.ampr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:13 AM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
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Hi Ronen
Mikrotik Routers support many features out of the box, IPIP, GRE, PPT,
4:04 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Cisco and Mikrotik support IPIP tunnels.
But AFAIK they support only peer to peer connections.
This means that you have to set up an IPIP tunnel for each ampr partner in
the mesh.
And this has to be done by scripting, since we talk about some 400 tunnels.
For Mikrotik, such scripting is available, but the script needs to run on an
external machine supporting python.
On mipsbe based Mikrotik routers, there is the possibility to run a virtual
machine using OpenWRT in parallel to router OS, which can then use ampr-ripd
to set up dynamic tunneling.
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message-----
From: R P
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:14
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
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_______________________________________________
Thank you Edgar
I look for Hardware solutions for making our gateways
I know Cisco can serve as Gateway
Now i start to understand that Microtik also can do it
Do you know if anyone is doing a GateWay with Microtik ? if yes may I
get the config to do IPIP for the 44 net ?
Thanks Forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
9:44 a.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
Le 17/02/2016 09:13, Egbert - DD9QP a écrit :
Mikrotik Routers support many features out of the box, IPIP, GRE, PPT,
L2TP Tunnels are a few of them. Routing protocols are BGP, OSPF, RIP
out of the box.
Thank you about the infos. I didn't take time to evaluate those products
yet. But i'll do !
An interesting feature is the availability of RouterOS in a "cloud"
version, ie a virtual machine. Downloadable images are provided for
quite any virtualization platform (VMWare, HyperV, KVM, etc...), and the
"free" version does allow all the features, with a limited bandwidth of
1 Mbps. Going up to 1 Gbps costs only $45.
Web interface seems to be quite user-friendly, and should be easier to
use for beginners than a bare Linux or OpenWRT system.
12:26 p.m.
New subject: BGP announcement questions ?
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Toussaint OTTAVI wrote:
Thank you about the infos. I didn't take time to
evaluate those products yet.
But i'll do !
An interesting feature is the availability of RouterOS in a "cloud" version,
ie a virtual machine. Downloadable images are provided for quite any
virtualization platform (VMWare, HyperV, KVM, etc...), and the "free" version
does allow all the features, with a limited bandwidth of 1 Mbps. Going up to
1 Gbps costs only $45.
Web interface seems to be quite user-friendly, and should be easier to use
for beginners than a bare Linux or OpenWRT system.
You might also look into using VyOS, real or virtual.
Antonio Querubin
e-mail: tony(a)lavanauts.org
xmpp: antonioquerubin(a)gmail.com
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