I am the Utah coordinator and appreciate Brian's comment that this matter
should not be dealt with in this forum.
Thank you.
Ken - KD6OAT
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration (Keith Kasin)
2. Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Ruben ON3RVH)
3. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC)
(Paul Sladen)
4. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC)
(Brian Kantor)
5. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC)
(Bryan Fields)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:11:56 -0700
From: Keith Kasin <ai6bx.keith(a)verizon.net>
To: "ai6bx.keith" <ai6bx.keith(a)verizon.net>et>,
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: Re: [44net] Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration
Message-ID: <35EECA40-B9B8-4563-8D8A-FD7786A9A292(a)verizon.net>
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Greetings all. I am trying to set up a gateway on the MikroTik hAP lite
following the posted instructions at
http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_MikroTik_Routers. A few
questions as I do not seem to be having success. At the end, prior to
installing scripts, I do have access to the broader Internet however still
have a 192.168.88.x address issued to my PC.
Question on step 1: At first assign 44 Net address to your router
Interface You do it by the web : IP --> Addresses --> Add New , a new
screen will open , fill your 44 Net IP 44.xxx.YYY.ZZZ/your sub net (usually
it will be /24) feel the network it should usually be same as the IP but
with 0 in the end
In the first I am using my 44 IP of 44.18.50.1/28 and then using the
44.18.50.0 in the network slot. Is that correct? I then assigned this to
one of the LAN ports on the MikroTik which looks correct for the LAN IP
info as it does change this from the 192.168.88.x sequence. The checkbox
below that still shows as NAT, should this change to DHCP?
Now some routes commands needed to be done
1) Route all the traffic to the tunnel interface
You do it by : IP --> Routes and clicking on the 0.0.0.0 line and changing
the gateway to the tunnel interface name and clicking apply
The command line in text is as follow
If I use the /ip route
add distance=1 gateway=UCSD
It creates a new entry showing UCSD however it does not connect. Am I
doing something wrong in this whole process?
After creating the tunnel the following instruction does not yield an
editable gateway box as it would lead me to think it would so I cannot
select the UCSD gateway. I did also load the scripts linked at the bottom
of the page with edited IP addresses relevant to my networks and so not see
the routes table updating.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Keith ? AI6BX
Sent from my iPad
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:18:07 +0000
From: Ruben ON3RVH <on3rvh(a)on3rvh.be>
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC)
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Hi all,
Just wanted to get some background info on this one. We got a subnet
request from, who appeared to be KI7HOC located in Utah.
He requested a /24 and wanted to route that through BGP by AS208173
(--
organisation: ORG-TYRA2-RIPE
org-name: Jori Vanneste
descr: Tyrasuki
--)
The ASN owner is located in Belgium and seems a bit shady to me looking
through the subnets he's announcing (one IPv4 /24 from Africa and a few
IPv6 subnets from APNIC, RIPE) and maintainers on the ASN (Singapore,
Sweden, Switserland, ..)
The email domain used, uses a whois hiding service and does not match
Alekzandr's email address on QRZ. Emailing Alekzandr on his QRZ email
address does not yield a respons, however returning the allocation request
to the requestor almost immediatly prompts a return through the AMPR portal
form.
The details in the request:
--
Name: Alekzandr Evans
Email: ampr@alekeagle.com<mailto:ampr@alekeagle.com>
Callsign: KI7HOC
--
Note in the original request: "AE: The operator of the AS number posted
above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify a Belgian
allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one."
--
My question would be if anybody on the list knows Alekzandr and can speak
to him if this request is legit or not.
From his QRZ page, Alekzandr is 12, nothing wrong
with that, but the way
that the email domain is using a whois hiding service makes
me ponder if
this might be a scam from someone posing as Alekzandr trying to get a BGP
routed /24 for free.
Has anyone else received a request from this callsign?
Any input would be appreciated. We ended up denying the request as neither
Alekzandr, nor that Jori are a holder of a valid ON ham license and
Alekzandr did not respond to the question which ham services he would be
hosting on this subnet (I asked that question because of my suspicions) and
I haven't received any answer to my direct email to Alekzandr's qrz email
address neither.
73,
Ruben - ON3RVH
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:01:11 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Sladen <44net(a)paul.sladen.org>
To: Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans
(KI7HOC)
Message-ID:
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote:
subnet request from, ... KI7HOC located in Utah.
...
a /24 ... BGP by AS208173 ... located in Belgium
https://as208173.net/
https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP."
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&…
The descriptions appear to be an experimental/educational network for
*learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals.
The request appears to be coming from a licensed HAM, with details all
technically correct and present.
domain used, uses a whois hiding service
Most domain registrations now use some (automatic) hiding/obfuscation
of contact email addresses. Including (for example) for 'on3rvh.be'.
does not match Alekzandr's email address on
QRZ. ...
Email: ampr(a)alekeagle.com
The 'ampr@' prefix shows a customisation for AMPRnet purposes. (cf.
'44net@' prefix in this email address, but 'qrz(a)p.s.o' on QRZ).
Such prefixes allow easy tracking of when email addresses have leaked.
in the original request: "AE: The operator
of the AS number posted
above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify
a Belgian allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one."
...
We ended up denying the request as neither Alekzandr,
Alekzandr has clearly stated the rationale for applying for a Belgium
assignment.
Ideally the maintainers responsible for ONxxx and Kxxxx would,
firstly, work together to discuss the jurisdiction where the
assignment/application might most appropriately made.
Would this be a good next-stop to take, in conjuction with Alekzandr?
(Perhaps along with a humble apology to Alekzandr).
73,
-Paul
--
Encourage those with an active interest!
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 05:33:27 -0700
From: Brian Kantor <Brian(a)bkantor.net>
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans
(KI7HOC)
Message-ID: <20191021123327.GB14358(a)meow.BKantor.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I am dealing with this off-list. I don't think the 44net technical
discussion list is the appropriate forum for this matter.
Let's not discuss it further here.
- Brian
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:01:11PM +0100, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net
wrote:
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:35:58 -0400
From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net>
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans
(KI7HOC)
Message-ID: <4223801d-d49c-808f-b7a5-33bc1f78a03a(a)bryanfields.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 10/21/19 8:01 AM, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote:
>
https://as208173.net/
>
https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP."
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&…
> The descriptions appear to be an
experimental/educational network for
> *learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals.
> The request appears to be coming from
a licensed HAM, with details all
> technically correct and present.
I've borrowed an ASN from others before, we're doing that for much of IP
space
we have live here in Florida. It's valid so long as you have an LOA for
it.
I've found many people who request IPs may not be ready to announce them,
and
have no idea of the typical requirements. Much like "paper repeaters",
they
want to reserve "their" space, but are not ready to use it.
I'd have asked who the upstream would be, and get an LOA from the AS
holder.
The whole regional administrator thing breaks a bit with sharing ASN's like
this, IMO it should be an application to Utah. That way he's got a local
person in his time zone to talk to. It could be 100% legit, best thing to
do
is get the docs and grant it. Get on the phone and verifying helps too.
If it's not legit, we'll know in a week when the spam reports roll in :)
A 12 year old running BGP is cool. I thought I was hot shit when I
migrated
to qmail at his age.
--
Bryan Fields
727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net
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