I am the Utah coordinator and appreciate Brian's comment that this matter should not be dealt with in this forum. Thank you. Ken - KD6OAT
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:00 PM 44net-request@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
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Today's Topics:
- Re: Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration (Keith Kasin)
- Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Ruben ON3RVH)
- Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Paul Sladen)
- Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Brian Kantor)
- Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Bryan Fields)
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:11:56 -0700 From: Keith Kasin ai6bx.keith@verizon.net To: "ai6bx.keith" ai6bx.keith@verizon.net, 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: Re: [44net] Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration Message-ID: 35EECA40-B9B8-4563-8D8A-FD7786A9A292@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Greetings all. I am trying to set up a gateway on the MikroTik hAP lite following the posted instructions at http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_MikroTik_Routers. A few questions as I do not seem to be having success. At the end, prior to installing scripts, I do have access to the broader Internet however still have a 192.168.88.x address issued to my PC.
Question on step 1: At first assign 44 Net address to your router Interface You do it by the web : IP --> Addresses --> Add New , a new screen will open , fill your 44 Net IP 44.xxx.YYY.ZZZ/your sub net (usually it will be /24) feel the network it should usually be same as the IP but with 0 in the end
In the first I am using my 44 IP of 44.18.50.1/28 and then using the 44.18.50.0 in the network slot. Is that correct? I then assigned this to one of the LAN ports on the MikroTik which looks correct for the LAN IP info as it does change this from the 192.168.88.x sequence. The checkbox below that still shows as NAT, should this change to DHCP?
Now some routes commands needed to be done
- Route all the traffic to the tunnel interface
You do it by : IP --> Routes and clicking on the 0.0.0.0 line and changing the gateway to the tunnel interface name and clicking apply
The command line in text is as follow
If I use the /ip route add distance=1 gateway=UCSD
It creates a new entry showing UCSD however it does not connect. Am I doing something wrong in this whole process?
After creating the tunnel the following instruction does not yield an editable gateway box as it would lead me to think it would so I cannot select the UCSD gateway. I did also load the scripts linked at the bottom of the page with edited IP addresses relevant to my networks and so not see the routes table updating.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Keith ? AI6BX
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:18:07 +0000 From: Ruben ON3RVH on3rvh@on3rvh.be To: AMPRNet working group 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) Message-ID: < AM6PR01MB41829D7D296205CCC15C2F76D3690@AM6PR01MB4182.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com
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Hi all,
Just wanted to get some background info on this one. We got a subnet request from, who appeared to be KI7HOC located in Utah. He requested a /24 and wanted to route that through BGP by AS208173 (-- organisation: ORG-TYRA2-RIPE org-name: Jori Vanneste descr: Tyrasuki --)
The ASN owner is located in Belgium and seems a bit shady to me looking through the subnets he's announcing (one IPv4 /24 from Africa and a few IPv6 subnets from APNIC, RIPE) and maintainers on the ASN (Singapore, Sweden, Switserland, ..) The email domain used, uses a whois hiding service and does not match Alekzandr's email address on QRZ. Emailing Alekzandr on his QRZ email address does not yield a respons, however returning the allocation request to the requestor almost immediatly prompts a return through the AMPR portal form.
The details in the request:
Name: Alekzandr Evans Email: ampr@alekeagle.commailto:ampr@alekeagle.com Callsign: KI7HOC -- Note in the original request: "AE: The operator of the AS number posted above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify a Belgian allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one." --
My question would be if anybody on the list knows Alekzandr and can speak to him if this request is legit or not.
From his QRZ page, Alekzandr is 12, nothing wrong with that, but the way
that the email domain is using a whois hiding service makes me ponder if this might be a scam from someone posing as Alekzandr trying to get a BGP routed /24 for free.
Has anyone else received a request from this callsign?
Any input would be appreciated. We ended up denying the request as neither Alekzandr, nor that Jori are a holder of a valid ON ham license and Alekzandr did not respond to the question which ham services he would be hosting on this subnet (I asked that question because of my suspicions) and I haven't received any answer to my direct email to Alekzandr's qrz email address neither.
73,
Ruben - ON3RVH
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:01:11 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Sladen 44net@paul.sladen.org To: Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.1910211237390.28516-100000@starsky.19inch.net Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote:
subnet request from, ... KI7HOC located in Utah. ... a /24 ... BGP by AS208173 ... located in Belgium
https://as208173.net/ https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP."
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&...
The descriptions appear to be an experimental/educational network for *learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals.
The request appears to be coming from a licensed HAM, with details all technically correct and present.
domain used, uses a whois hiding service
Most domain registrations now use some (automatic) hiding/obfuscation of contact email addresses. Including (for example) for 'on3rvh.be'.
does not match Alekzandr's email address on QRZ. ... Email: ampr@alekeagle.com
The 'ampr@' prefix shows a customisation for AMPRnet purposes. (cf. '44net@' prefix in this email address, but 'qrz@p.s.o' on QRZ). Such prefixes allow easy tracking of when email addresses have leaked.
in the original request: "AE: The operator of the AS number posted above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify a Belgian allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one." ... We ended up denying the request as neither Alekzandr,
Alekzandr has clearly stated the rationale for applying for a Belgium assignment.
Ideally the maintainers responsible for ONxxx and Kxxxx would, firstly, work together to discuss the jurisdiction where the assignment/application might most appropriately made.
Would this be a good next-stop to take, in conjuction with Alekzandr?
(Perhaps along with a humble apology to Alekzandr).
73, -Paul -- Encourage those with an active interest!
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 05:33:27 -0700 From: Brian Kantor Brian@bkantor.net To: AMPRNet working group 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) Message-ID: 20191021123327.GB14358@meow.BKantor.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I am dealing with this off-list. I don't think the 44net technical discussion list is the appropriate forum for this matter.
Let's not discuss it further here. - Brian
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:01:11PM +0100, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote:
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:35:58 -0400 From: Bryan Fields Bryan@bryanfields.net To: AMPRNet working group 44net@mailman.ampr.org Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) Message-ID: 4223801d-d49c-808f-b7a5-33bc1f78a03a@bryanfields.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 10/21/19 8:01 AM, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote:
https://as208173.net/ https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP."
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&...
The descriptions appear to be an experimental/educational network for *learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals.
The request appears to be coming from a licensed HAM, with details all technically correct and present.
I've borrowed an ASN from others before, we're doing that for much of IP space we have live here in Florida. It's valid so long as you have an LOA for it.
I've found many people who request IPs may not be ready to announce them, and have no idea of the typical requirements. Much like "paper repeaters", they want to reserve "their" space, but are not ready to use it.
I'd have asked who the upstream would be, and get an LOA from the AS holder. The whole regional administrator thing breaks a bit with sharing ASN's like this, IMO it should be an application to Utah. That way he's got a local person in his time zone to talk to. It could be 100% legit, best thing to do is get the docs and grant it. Get on the phone and verifying helps too.
If it's not legit, we'll know in a week when the spam reports roll in :)
A 12 year old running BGP is cool. I thought I was hot shit when I migrated to qmail at his age.
-- Bryan Fields
727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
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