5 Apr
2016
5 Apr
'16
2:05 p.m.
I'm on FiOS (was Verizon now Frontier Comm.) and I'm considering
buying a Pi for ampr.org connection. I'm pretty much stuck with the
Verizon Actiontec MI424WR on the WAN due to ISP requirements and I'm
wondering how it might be best to place the Pi on the LAN. Should it
be in the DMZ or should it stay behind NAT?
Feel free to email me off list if this is OT.
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Geoff Joy - ke6qh -
AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties.
(44.18/16)
5 Apr
5 Apr
2:10 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 11:05:38AM -0700, Geoff Joy -KE6QH- wrote:
I'm on FiOS (was Verizon now Frontier Comm.) and
I'm considering
buying a Pi for ampr.org connection. I'm pretty much stuck with the
Verizon Actiontec MI424WR on the WAN due to ISP requirements and I'm
wondering how it might be best to place the Pi on the LAN. Should it
be in the DMZ or should it stay behind NAT?
I'm not familiar with that particular router, but most residential
routers don't have a provision for allowing the IPIP protocol through
the NAT so you pretty much have to use the DMZ for AMPRNet tunneling.
- Brian
2:11 p.m.
The DMZ IS behind NAT, too.
The DMZ host sits on the LAN, has a local LAN IP, just that any
unknown/unclassified traffic is forwarded to that specific host.
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From: Geoff Joy -KE6QH-
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 21:05
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: [44net] ISP Router and Pi Cohabitation
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I'm on FiOS (was Verizon now Frontier Comm.) and I'm considering
buying a Pi for ampr.org connection. I'm pretty much stuck with the
Verizon Actiontec MI424WR on the WAN due to ISP requirements and I'm
wondering how it might be best to place the Pi on the LAN. Should it
be in the DMZ or should it stay behind NAT?
Feel free to email me off list if this is OT.
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AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties.
(44.18/16)
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3:10 p.m.
I am on FiOS with Frontier and I don't use an Actiontec -- The box that
does the media conversion from optic to copper (usually outside your house)
can be configured to put the Internet on Ethernet, and configured as a
bridge, then you install your router on the other end of the Ethernet. I
use MikroTik. I actually also have Comcast/Xfinity, and do a similar
configuration with a Motorola modem and bring both Ethernets to the router,
for IPv4 I run most traffic through FiOS but have auto failover to
Comcast. All IPv6 is routed to Comcast.
I actually have a VPN with routed addresses that supports the net-44 stuff
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Geoff Joy -KE6QH- <geoff(a)windowmeister.com>
wrote:
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_______________________________________________
I'm on FiOS (was Verizon now Frontier Comm.) and I'm considering
buying a Pi for ampr.org connection. I'm pretty much stuck with the
Verizon Actiontec MI424WR on the WAN due to ISP requirements and I'm
wondering how it might be best to place the Pi on the LAN. Should it
be in the DMZ or should it stay behind NAT?
Feel free to email me off list if this is OT.
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Geoff Joy - ke6qh -
AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties.
(44.18/16)
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3:40 p.m.
On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:10:16 -0700, K7VE - John <k7ve(a)k7ve.org> wrote:
I am on FiOS with Frontier and I don't use an
Actiontec -- The box that
does the media conversion from optic to copper (usually outside your house)
can be configured to put the Internet on Ethernet, and configured as a
bridge, then you install your router on the other end of the Ethernet. I
use MikroTik. I actually also have Comcast/Xfinity, and do a similar
configuration with a Motorola modem and bring both Ethernets to the router,
for IPv4 I run most traffic through FiOS but have auto failover to
Comcast. All IPv6 is routed to Comcast.
I actually have a VPN with routed addresses that supports the net-44 stuff
I've got TV/internet/phone on the TriplePlay/Pay/Pray plan. :) I know
the ONT is configured to send the internet stuff over the UTP and the
coax is split in my office between the router, DVR and the TV. I know
the ONT is also bridged already. It was my understanding that the DVR
cannot be configured or updated by the ISP if you don't use their
router. I know they have a backdoor into the router for firmware
updates as I think I saw at least one update over the years.
The service is 99.999% up for at least the last 5 years or so
therefore I am not inclined to go to the expense of changing routers
unless Frontier decides to start screwing up their subscribers but
your fail-over scheme sounds interesting. I wasn't aware Comcast had
IPv6 to end users already. I know my Apple devices are Teredo
tunneling their IPv6 traffic here.
It sounds like putting a Pi on the DMZ and VPN into the ampr.org would
be the way to go.
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