Here's a draft copy of the form that we're going to be asking people applying for directly routed subnets (BGP folks) to complete so that we can get the show on the road. I hope to start allocating those in early December.
Anyone have suggestions or objections? - Brian
=========================================================================== Amateur Radio Digital Communications Inc
Application for Directly Routed (CIDR delegated) Subnet
Please provide the requested information regarding the organization/person to whom the addresses will be licensed.
By submitting this form you affirm that you have read and agree to the Acceptable Use and Terms of Service attached herein. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Organization name:
Organization postal address:
Organization email:
Representative name:
Representative callsign:
Representative email:
Representative telephone:
Width of network requested (CIDR Notation):
Estimated number of subnets this will be divided into:
Estimated number of hosts on all subnets combined:
Network Service Provider name:
NSP postal address:
NSP telephone:
NSP email contact:
NSP ASN:
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(TOS would be attached here.)
Does this mean that I can advertise my /24 to my BGP peers, should I ever get an AS number?
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 10:21 -0800, Brian Kantor wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Here's a draft copy of the form that we're going to be asking people applying for directly routed subnets (BGP folks) to complete so that we can get the show on the road. I hope to start allocating those in early December.
Anyone have suggestions or objections?
- Brian
=========================================================================== Amateur Radio Digital Communications Inc
Application for Directly Routed (CIDR delegated) Subnet
Please provide the requested information regarding the organization/person to whom the addresses will be licensed.
By submitting this form you affirm that you have read and agree to the Acceptable Use and Terms of Service attached herein.
Organization name:
Organization postal address:
Organization email:
Representative name:
Representative callsign:
Representative email:
Representative telephone:
Width of network requested (CIDR Notation):
Estimated number of subnets this will be divided into:
Estimated number of hosts on all subnets combined:
Network Service Provider name:
NSP postal address:
NSP telephone:
NSP email contact:
NSP ASN:
(TOS would be attached here.) _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
C.J. --
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements in the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with the requested information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:27 AM, C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP < cjac@colliertech.org> wrote:
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Does this mean that I can advertise my /24 to my BGP peers, should I ever get an AS number?
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements in the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with the requested information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP allocations out of the existing system or will there be new allocations?
How will the old "tunneled" system work with the new BGP allocations? Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled in the default routing?
IE. How will 44.24.126.x clients using a tunnel gateway interact with 44.24.127.x clients on the BGP system?
Thanks, Bill, WA7NWP
There has been some discussion about using unallocated space for the new BGP systems, but I don't see a problem with existing networks moving from tunnels to BGP.
The tunnel systems can treat any BGP'ed address space as "Internet" address space. We probably should make sure that the tunnels have a default "44/8" that knows about BGP'ed subnets.
For your example -- 44.24.126/24 wouldn't have an entry for 44.24.127/24 so it should send traffic to 44.24/16, which would then either know about BGP address space or send it to 44/8 who will need to have the BGP segments on it's routing table.
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Bill Vodall wa7nwp@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements
in
the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with the requested
information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP allocations out of the existing system or will there be new allocations?
How will the old "tunneled" system work with the new BGP allocations? Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled in the default routing?
IE. How will 44.24.126.x clients using a tunnel gateway interact with 44.24.127.x clients on the BGP system?
Thanks, Bill, WA7NWP _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:58:10AM -0800, Bill Vodall wrote:
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP allocations out of the existing system or will there be new allocations?
Some from existing, some from new allocations, on a case-by-case basis.
How will the old "tunneled" system work with the new BGP allocations? Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled in the default routing?
They won't be in the tunnels table because they aren't tunnels, although it's quite possible there will be tunnels provided by them (like UCSD does now).
They should be handled by your default outbound route, like any other internet address would be. - Brian
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