20 Nov
2012
20 Nov
'12
6:21 p.m.
Here's a draft copy of the form that we're going to be asking people
applying for directly routed subnets (BGP folks) to complete so that
we can get the show on the road. I hope to start allocating those in
early December.
Anyone have suggestions or objections?
- Brian
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Amateur Radio Digital Communications Inc
Application for Directly Routed (CIDR delegated) Subnet
Please provide the requested information regarding the organization/person
to whom the addresses will be licensed.
By submitting this form you affirm that you have read and agree to the
Acceptable Use and Terms of Service attached herein.
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Organization name:
Organization postal address:
Organization email:
Representative name:
Representative callsign:
Representative email:
Representative telephone:
Width of network requested (CIDR Notation):
Estimated number of subnets this will be divided into:
Estimated number of hosts on all subnets combined:
Network Service Provider name:
NSP postal address:
NSP telephone:
NSP email contact:
NSP ASN:
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(TOS would be attached here.)
20 Nov
20 Nov
7:27 p.m.
Does this mean that I can advertise my /24 to my BGP peers, should I
ever get an AS number?
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 10:21 -0800, Brian Kantor wrote:
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Here's a draft copy of the form that we're going to be asking people
applying for directly routed subnets (BGP folks) to complete so that
we can get the show on the road. I hope to start allocating those in
early December.
Anyone have suggestions or objections?
- Brian
===========================================================================
Amateur Radio Digital Communications Inc
Application for Directly Routed (CIDR delegated) Subnet
Please provide the requested information regarding the organization/person
to whom the addresses will be licensed.
By submitting this form you affirm that you have read and agree to the
Acceptable Use and Terms of Service attached herein.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Organization name:
Organization postal address:
Organization email:
Representative name:
Representative callsign:
Representative email:
Representative telephone:
Width of network requested (CIDR Notation):
Estimated number of subnets this will be divided into:
Estimated number of hosts on all subnets combined:
Network Service Provider name:
NSP postal address:
NSP telephone:
NSP email contact:
NSP ASN:
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(TOS would be attached here.)
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7:45 p.m.
New subject: DRAFT directly routed subnets supplemental information form
C.J. --
http://www.ampr.org/tos.txt
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements in
the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with the requested information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be
requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
<http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays>
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:27 AM, C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP <
cjac(a)colliertech.org> wrote:
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Does this mean that I can advertise my /24 to my BGP peers, should I
ever get an AS number?
7:58 p.m.
New subject: DRAFT directly routed subnets supplemental information form
http://www.ampr.org/tos.txt
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements in
the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with the requested information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be
requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP allocations out of the
existing system or will there be new allocations?
How will the old "tunneled" system work with the new BGP allocations?
Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled
in the default routing?
IE. How will 44.24.126.x clients using a tunnel gateway interact with
44.24.127.x clients on the BGP system?
Thanks,
Bill, WA7NWP
8:05 p.m.
New subject: DRAFT directly routed subnets supplemental information form
There has been some discussion about using unallocated space for the new
BGP systems, but I don't see a problem with existing networks moving from
tunnels to BGP.
The tunnel systems can treat any BGP'ed address space as "Internet" address
space. We probably should make sure that the tunnels have a default
"44/8" that knows about BGP'ed subnets.
For your example -- 44.24.126/24 wouldn't have an entry for 44.24.127/24
so it should send traffic to 44.24/16, which would then either know about
BGP address space or send it to 44/8 who will need to have the BGP segments
on it's routing table.
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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
<http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays>
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Bill Vodall <wa7nwp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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_______________________________________________
http://www.ampr.org/tos.txt
Short answer, yes you can now do BGP but you must meet the requirements
in
the TOS and send the form Brian provided in with
the requested
information.
You have a regional block allocation from 44.24.127.x which could be
requested, or you may be assigned another block based on the application.
Your ASN will be from your upstream. Minimum BGP is /24 CIDR.
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP allocations out of the
existing system or will there be new allocations?
How will the old "tunneled" system work with the new BGP allocations?
Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled
in the default routing?
IE. How will 44.24.126.x clients using a tunnel gateway interact with
44.24.127.x clients on the BGP system?
Thanks,
Bill, WA7NWP
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8:33 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:58:10AM -0800, Bill Vodall wrote:
So is the plan is to carve up these new BGP
allocations out of the
existing system or will there be new allocations?
Some from existing, some from new allocations, on a case-by-case basis.
How will the old "tunneled" system work with
the new BGP allocations?
Will there be entries in the list of tunnels or will they be handled
in the default routing?
They won't be in the tunnels table because they aren't tunnels, although
it's quite possible there will be tunnels provided by them (like UCSD does
now).
They should be handled by your default outbound route, like any other internet
address would be.
- Brian
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