I'm not connected to 44net anymore, when I ping, to me at least, my outgoing packets look correct, but I get no response ever. I'm trying to put together as much as I can. My gateway ips 44.4.28.50 at 50.79.209.150, I have a static IP. I'm current on the portal, far as I can tell with no error messages.  ping 44.0.0.1 PING 44.0.0.1 (44.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. *no response ever I see the outgoing, but never the ping back. tcpdump -vv -i enp4s0 host 169.228.34.84 tcpdump: listening on enp4s0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes 09:39:25.982188 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 54479, offset 0, flags [DF], proto IPIP (4), length 104)     hamradio.junglevision.com > amprgw.ucsd.edu: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 14161, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84)     ke6i.ampr.org > gw.ampr.org: ICMP echo request, id 25489, seq 105, length 64 09:39:27.006173 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 54594, offset 0, flags [DF], proto IPIP (4), length 104)     hamradio.junglevision.com > amprgw.ucsd.edu: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 15137, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84)     ke6i.ampr.org > gw.ampr.org: ICMP echo request, id 25489, seq 106, length 64 I occasionally see one of these, which hints to me that ipip is making it to my gateway. 09:39:15.386222 IP (tos 0x20, ttl 48, id 32657, offset 0, flags [none], proto IPIP (4), length 60)     amprgw.ucsd.edu > hamradio.junglevision.com: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 237, id 33644, offset 0, flags [none], proto TCP (6), length 40)     no-reverse-dns-configured.com.46324 > ke6i.ampr.org.finger: Flags [S], cksum 0x039d (correct), seq 2046795537, win 1024, length 0  ip tunnel list tunl0 tunl0: any/ip remote any local any ttl 64 ifconfig tunl0 tunl0: flags=4289<UP,RUNNING,NOARP,MULTICAST>  mtu 1480         inet 44.4.28.50  netmask 255.255.255.255         tunnel   txqueuelen 1000  (IPIP Tunnel)         RX packets 2259  bytes 305270 (298.1 KiB)         RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0         TX packets 2874  bytes 233904 (228.4 KiB)         TX errors 232  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 232 ifconfig enp4s0 enp4s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500         inet 50.79.209.150  netmask 255.255.255.240  broadcast 50.79.209.159         ether 8c:89:a5:64:04:4c  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)         RX packets 140452  bytes 25244334 (24.0 MiB)         RX errors 0  dropped 473  overruns 0  frame 0         TX packets 53461  bytes 5807456 (5.5 MiB)         TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0 ampr-ripd -d  -t 44 -a 44.4.28.50/32  -s -L ke6i@cm87uu Using gateway 50.79.209.158 for direct 44net endpoints via interface enp4s0. Calling home Waiting for RIPv2 broadcasts... Simple password: *********** ip rule list 0:      from all lookup local 44:     from all to 44.0.0.0/8 lookup hamradio 45:     from all iif tunl0 lookup hamradio 45:     from 44.4.28.50 lookup hamradio 32766:  from all lookup main 32767:  from all lookup default  ip route list table hamradio 44.0.0.1 via 169.228.34.84 dev tunl0 proto 44 onlink window 840 44.2.0.1 via 191.183.136.1 dev tunl0 proto 44 onlink window 840 44.2.2.0/24 via 216.218.207.198 dev tunl0 proto 44 onlink window 840 ... I don't think it's a firewall issue, I've turned off firewall and it doesn't fix anything. My route table looks healthy, so I think ampr-ripd is worrking correctly? Tried to include as much information as I can, thanks for any help!