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Re: [44net] Why if you are yahoo.com or gmail.com mail user, you probably won't see this message :-)

by Rob Janssen

> The subject line of this message is clearly wrong. > 255 of the 821 subscribers to this mailing list use @gmail.com > mailboxes. > If there were a problem with gmail, it would have shown up long > ago. I have a bit mixed feelings about it. As a coordinator I get regular mail from gmail users and often experience that my replies do not arrive or get marked as SPAM. I get reminders about requests that I have already processed, and sometimes a message "oh sorry I found your reply in the SPAM folder". At first I blamed my use of an @amsat.org address, and also using that address as a From: address in my replies. Due to the SPF record on amsat.org it can be expected that such use leads to marking of mail as suspicious. So I switched to using another alias service (@vrza.nl being offered by one of our amateur radio societies), but the situation did not improve. I still get reports of my mail ending up in the SPAM folder at gmail. But the vrza.nl domain has no SPF record. Apparently there is some relation to the user receiving the mail. Some users receive all my mail without problem, no matter if sent from @amsat.org @vrza.nl or another source. Others report that it is treated as SPAM for each of those. Not being a gmail.com user myself, I do not exactly know what features it offers for whitelisting or other special treatment of mail, or maybe what it learns automatically. It could be that sending back and forth several mails eventually leads to an address getting on the whitelist automatically. The same could be true for mail server IP addresses (like a mailinglist server), and it could be that knowledge built in the past also affects the results of new SPAM criteria added later. It is all a bit opaque, and when you want reliable and predictable mail service, using those mailservices certainly is not the best choice... or at the least check the SPAM folder regularly. (but I have also received reports of mail being dropped and not placed there) Rob

6 years, 12 months

Why if you are yahoo.com or gmail.com mail user, you probably won't see this message :-)

by Neil Johnson

TL;DR: In never ending battle against SPAM and phishing attacks, some email providers are now using DMARC, rejecting or marking as SPAM email if the originating mail server doesn't match the authorized ones for the provider's service. For example: - Yahoo! is flat out rejecting e-mail from yahoo! mail users if it comes from non-authorized servers. - Google is marking e-mail from gmail users as SPAM if it comes from non-authorized servers. Unfortunately this breaks mailing list software like mailman (used for this list) which tries to make e-mail from the list appear as if it is coming from the original sender. The changes that are required to fix the issue change the functionality of the list software in ways users may not like. I found this out while applying DMARC for my my own domains. More info can be found at these sites: https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC https://dmarc.org/ Fun. -Neil -- Neil Johnson

6 years, 12 months

FYI - Amazon acquires 3.0.0.0/8 from GE

by Neil Johnson

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173 Note: I'm NOT advocating anything like that for 44.0.0.0/8. It's just going to be fun to watch the market for IPv4 address space boom and then bust when IPv6 adoption finally reaches critical mass. -Neil, N0SFH -- Neil Johnson

7 years

ampr-ripd

by Jean Létourneau

Hello group, what can cause ampr-ripd to stay at " waiting for RIPV2 Broadcast".I opened the DMZ port of my main routerwhere my raspbery PI is connected. I know the DMZ work. I tested if from outside. Any tought? 73 de Jean -- Sysop de: VE2PKT (BBS), VE2PKT-13 (URONode) : VE2RCN-1, VE2RGM-1, VE2RGC-1, VE2RVA-1, (The-Net) : VE2PKT-9 (DXCluster), VE2PKT-10 (Winlink Gateway) RF: 147.435 Mhz (1200 Bps), Internet: Telnet://nodes-ve2pkt.dyndns.org <http://xrouter-ve2pkt.dyndns.org> port 23 (Network Node) Telnet://fbb-ve2pkt.dyndns.org port 6300 (FBB BBS) Telnet://ve2pkt.dyndns.org port 9000 (DXCluster) E-Mail: packet: ve2pkt(a)ve2pkt.#qbc.qc.can.noam ampr net: ve2pkt(a)ve2pkt.ampr.org Inet: ve2pkt(a)gmail.com

7 years

Vps VPN apmrgateway.

by pete M

Hi! I am kind of new to all this ampr thing. Been following this mailing list and trying to have my setup in a way that will be stable. I have a vps running openvpn server. I have an edge router I want to take my 44 IP address range and distribute them to a port on my edge router but I want to keep my wan/lan configuration as it is and transparent to the 44 range In what way should I do it? I am totaly lost.

7 years

Doing Gateway from Cellular Modem feed ?

by R P

Hi there Has someone tried doing A gateway with cellular modem ? I understand that cellular modems (at least in our country) do few times NAT (carrier-grade nat) and therefore the IP it get is not an IP accessible from the outside world so probably cant do any IPIP to the 44 net router Is that true ? or is there any solution ? We dont have IPV6 systems here yet which might overcome this problem only IPV4 any Info on the subject is appreciated Regards Ronen -4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org [http://www.ronen.org/My-QSl.jpg]<http://www.ronen.org/> Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite<http://www.ronen.org/> ronen.org (Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite) is hosted by domainavenue.com www.ronen.org

7 years

Re: [44net] Unregistered gateway?

by Rob Janssen

> Possibly a router not having updated the script to 3.2 after upgrade to > ROS 6.41 and later. Yes, that would be the reason for sending MNDP broadcasts. Actually I don't mind that those are sent, it can be useful as it provides the info I gave in the first post. But of course it would be nice when system->identity is changed e.g. to the callsign so it is easier to contact people when something is wrong. However, the main issue is that it is using a public IP that is not in the gateway list so these packets cause a log message and are dropped here. Likely the public IP has changed without the owner noticing it or without him realizing that he needs to update the portal entry. (of course this can be avoided when using a DNS name in the portal and some dynamic DNS update script, or even simply "IP Cloud" when this MikroTik is directly in the public IP) Rob

7 years

Unregistered gateway?

by Rob Janssen

Who is running an unregistered gateway at public IP address 72.192.178.228 ? (Cox communications) It is a MikroTik RB750Gr3 router running 6.42.6 firmware with default identity "MikroTik" broadcasting MNDP packets to all other gateways, apparently running Marius' ampr-rip script, but the address is not appearing in the portal. Maybe its address has changed but not updated in the portal? Rob

7 years

LoRA module

by Steve L

This caught my attention on the wetnet list: https://www.enhancedradio.com/products/hamshield-lora-edition-high-power For those seeking new ways to move data and ones that exceed what you can do connected to conventional analog rigs, this is worth looking into. Circuit Cellar magazine had a pretty decent multi-part LoRA overview last year. And if you look on github, Travis, KK4VCZ has some code adapted as a starting place for ham radio: https://github.com/travisgoodspeed/loraham Figured I'd point it out there as it's what we do.

7 years

John Postel - 20 years

by Brian Kantor

Network Working Group V. Cerf Request for Comments: 2468 MCI Category: Informational October 1998 I REMEMBER IANA October 17, 1998 Status of this Memo This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. Copyright Notice Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998). All Rights Reserved. Remembrance A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place! Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30 years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of the giants to depart from our midst. Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to Cerf Informational [Page 1] RFC 2468 I REMEMBER IANA October 1998 contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I really didn't know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a part of a group of graduate students working for Professor Leonard Kleinrock on the ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place. Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST individual member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced to see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet service, and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC Information Sciences Institute. Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think. Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his colleagues. For me, he personified the words "selfless service". For nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the International Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of State, but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for his contributions. While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I contemplate what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell our collective Internet story, including not only Cerf Informational [Page 2] RFC 2468 I REMEMBER IANA October 1998 the technical but also the poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service to the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not fade from our collective consciousness. "What would Jon have done?", we will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so well tamed for so many years. There will almost surely be many memorials to Jon's monumental service to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I pledge to establish an award in Jon's name to recognize long-standing service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which will be awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient. If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that there is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one man's astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved. Security Considerations Security issues are not relevant to this Remembrance. Author's Address Vinton G. Cerf MCI EMail: vcerf(a)mci.net Cerf Informational [Page 3] RFC 2468 I REMEMBER IANA October 1998 Full Copyright Statement Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998). All Rights Reserved. This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be followed, or as required to translate it into languages other than English. The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns. This document and the information contained herein is provided on an "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING TASK FORCE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. Cerf Informational [Page 4]

7 years

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