Well, you have to understand that this is 44Net, a list dedicated mostly to doing TCP/IP over packet radio, using the 44.x.x.x IP space that has been allocated long ago. We have started in the mid eighties by using the AX.25 protocol to transport IP packets, and we have built software that supported that on the systems of the time. We were pioneers in the IP world, certainly in the field of running IP over very slow connections. We were often "hated" by the BBS and keyboard-to-keyboard folk for sending unreadable gibberish that disturbed their monitoring functions. We are not AX.25 folks, we have *used* the AX.25 packet protocol to achieve our goals. And we have moved on. We are now mainly using WiFi radio technology, and to interconnect networks outside radio range we use tunnels over internet. Some of us even have made connection between devices on this IP network and internet. Not all of us like that, and it is not allowed everywhere. But that usually does not preclude using the tunnels over internet. We transport IP everywhere. When we develop or discover other radio technologies that can transport packets, we use and discuss those. They usually will not be AX.25.
So, AX.25 packet radio is not our subject of discussion (anymore). When you want that, you probably have to look somewhere else. We are networking people, that use amateur radio as a medium. Many of us have used AX.25 over voice radio at some time, maybe we still have some APRS node, but voice-bandwidth AX.25 is mostly a thing of the past for most of us.
When you are not interested in this topic, feel free to no longer follow it. Hamradio has lots of different aspects, and it often occurs that some people do not like some aspect. Unfortunately, it also often happens that people who do not see the fun of some mode, start offending its users or downplaying the usefulness or hamspirit of that mode. Don't do that, it makes you appear negative. Use a mode you like.
Rob
On 8/4/21 5:50 AM, Jeff Archambeault via 44Net wrote:
So I have a node running as best as 24/7 as I can, with no real motivation to do so, no mail feed, wondering what the point actually is. And all I see is BGP BGP BGP BGP....BGP, and oh, BGP mentioned in this mailing list, wondering if there is some relation to CRT, as old as the tech is around here.
I thought there was some RF involved, but all I see is BGP. If I wasn't an IT person, with a MikroTik Routerboard, I wouldn't have a clue. That, and the fact that I'm practically in a broadband desert, literally makes me sick and tired of any discussion of connecting anything anywhere that doesn't involve RF.
Hm. Perhaps I need to say that again.
I AM PERSONALLY SICK AND TIRED OF CONVERSATIONS DEALING WITH PACKET RADIO/AX.25 THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE RF. YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE!!!!!!