You can operate it under your ham licence when you remove the encryption at the proper frequencies and according to the amateur regulations. The law is clear.
And then you can use the frequency allocation for ham, with the max bandwith/power setting granted by the ham licence.
Like they said with greater power you have greater responsability. ;-)
So for ham group that decide to run a kind of backbone to links ham site and ham user together, the best is to stay within the ISM band for the transport layer and keep encryption on to protect the space from unwanted users. And to drop to other frequency specific to the ham band usage like the 900MHZ or just lower then the 2.4ghz band and run unencrypted there, anyways those are local distribution.
One question do arise still. What about security of the communication to a router or a device that need credential to run on the network? of course there is always the TELNET possibility. or HTTP vs SSH and HTTPS But that is looking for trouble. The credential will be in plain text and that is a no no in any type of situation. Lets imagine a young hacker finding that on the tower close to his home there is a 2.4ghz open channel at -1 without encryption. He can sniff the packet all day long till he find something interresting. Some will say that we can use mac adress white listing, yes, but mac adress can be spoofed and when a user disconnect, the young "researcher" will be able to connect posing as the disconneted ham. From there he will have access to the whole network and who knows what he will try to do.
As the control operator of those network we have the responsability to protect them from wrong utilisation. I think that this need to be brought way higher into the realm of the legislators.
Now Can I ask if any canadian did start to bring it to the legislator playground?
Pierre VE2PF
________________________________________ De : 44Net 44net-bounces+petem001=hotmail.com@mailman.ampr.org de la part de Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Envoyé : 9 avril 2021 12:25 À : 44net@mailman.ampr.org Cc : Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty Objet : Re: [44net] Encrypted links on 5.8ghz. (WPA)
You cannot use it under you ham licence when it is encrypted. If you use it use for instance to link your gateway with whatever ham radios then still that encrypted link doesn't operate under your ham licence. You can operate it under your ham licence when you remove the encryption at the proper frequencies and according to the amateur regulations. The law is clear.
Bob VE3TOK
On 2021-04-09 11:35, pete M via 44Net wrote:
I dont know what is the status of this case but I am asking here if anyone had some factual information on this.
As we are using the frequency that are into the ISM band, We are also using device that are type accepted for that band. Those device are used legally with encryption by normal lambda user. If we dont modify the device power and frequency would it be legal for ham to also encrypt the signal? I understand that if we would use a higher power, different channel I would understand that we are now out of the ISM band rules. Pierre VE2PF _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@mailman.ampr.org https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net
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