My thoughts Long ago (maybe a decade or so) Brian told us that the UCSD machine getting old and needed an upgrade I personally raised two solution 1) Donation from all of us 2) providing him the system (machine) he want according to the spec he will provide he told me that time that a Computer is not a problem and therefore no donation was done and he got a computer by his own also long ago he wrote in the forum here that he got request to pay for AMPR.ORG domain and he personally dont intend to pay it and I know that someone else pay for it so from the point of the donation im sure that if donation would needed indeed any one of us would donate and thats refer for the selling of our network I say again (as RF person who deal in the repeaters in our country ) I dont free any Frequency of our bands no matter what the price is even if it would benefit me a lot of sophisticated and expensive repeaters as a reward for giving few KHz of my band
same is for our Network i know it is too late but we shouldn't give any single ip no matter what the price was if we needed money for development of our network we would get it from other sources
now my thought : what will happen if theoretically we will run out of our address spaces ? how will we get a new address block ?
now that we are after that i call all the experts here (and I know that there are here first stage experts) Please develop the network find newer solutions to the old IPIP system install a VPN server at UCSD and find us K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) solutions for making gateways that even dummies would be able to setup a working gateway without any knowledge in software or hardware
I cant help you on that matter as im not a software person but willing to help testing anything i can for you ...
and last : Brian : continue to do the good job providing us a DNS and a Router with zero downtime find for you a replacement for time that you are on vacation and sleep a bit and dont answer mails at late night hours ...
73 Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@mailman.ampr.org on behalf of Tony Langdon via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 1:12 AM To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org Cc: Tony Langdon Subject: Re: [44net] A few thoughts on recent developments
On 20/07/19 03:27, John D. Hays wrote:
The sale of 44.192.0.0/10 took most of us by surprise and for some it somehow feels like a coup. Here are a few thoughts I have had, since the announcement:
Some good thoughts there John. Something did catch my eye.
- As others have mentioned, this is an excellent time to reexamine the
structure of the network and modernize it.
Yep. I see this as an opportunity as well.
a) Deprecate the IPIP tunnel mesh
That is rather old technology and difficult for some to implement (impossible behind CGN). What would you replace it with?
b) Update firewall rules, replacing 44.0.0.0/8 with similar rules for 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10
Goes without saying.
c) Adopt BGP and VPNs (or similar strategies) for interconnection and routing.
Whatever we use must not come at the cost of suboptimal routing, and be able to scale at least as well as the IPIP tunnels do.
tl;dr – It’s a done deal, work with it. Become active and take the initiative to improve the network.
Agree, the world has changed. Use it as an opportunity.
-- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
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